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posted by FloCircle
The Fidelius Charm is a powerful charm that is central to the Harry Potter tale. In Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, Professor Flitwick tells us the charm is:

"an immensely complex spell ... involving the magical concealment of a secret inside a living soul. The information is hidden inside the chosen person, 或者 Secret-Keeper, and is henceforth impossible to find -- unless, of course, the Secret-Keeper chooses to divulge it." (PoA pg 205/152)

J.K. Rowling gave us further information on the how the Fidelius Charm works. In a 常见问题 民意调查 on her official site, she says:

When a Secret-Keeper dies, their secret dies with them, or, to put it another way, the status of their secret will remain as it was at the moment of their death. Everybody in whom they confided will continue to know the hidden information, but nobody else. (JKRowling.com)

So, although Flitwick describes it as "complex", J.K's 描述 is seemingly straightforward, the information is concealed within the Secret-Keepers soul, and there it stays for an eternity, unless the Secret-Keeper chooses to communicate the knowledge. But is that the whole story? No.

The house at Godric's Hollow, 12 Grimmauld Place, and Shell Cottage are three properties that are protected 由 the Fidelius Charm, three properties that have been secured against Voldemort and his Death Eaters. But within each property we see differences in the way the Fidelius Charm works.

We are told Peter Pettigrew, 由 virtue of the charm cast 由 either Lily 或者 James, was the Secret-Keeper for the Potter's 首页 in Godric's Hollow. But in the final book, Deathly Hallows, J.K. establishes how and why that secret is no longer kept:

"Harry --" "Look... Look at it, Hermione ..." "I don't ... oh!" He could see it; the Fidelius Charm must have died with James and Lily. (DH 331/271)

We have been told 由 both Flitwick and J.K. herself directly that the Fidelius Charm has a life span irrespective of the Secret-Keeper, that "the secret dies with them". But here in Deathly Hallows is an example where that's not true, in this case, the Secret-Keeper (Pettigrew) is still alive, but the secret has, nevertheless, been revealed to the world. And J.K. tells us through Harry's narration that the reason the Fidelius Charm was broken was because the spell caster (James 或者 Lily), NOT the Secret-Keeper, had died. Is this a mistake in the books? Maybe not.

This seemingly contradiction leads us 下一个 to the headquarters for the Order of the Phoenix, 12 Grimmauld Place, and a whole host of new questions.

We are first told 由 Sirius in Order of the Phoenix about the Fidelius Charm on 12 Grimmauld Place, when he tells Harry:

"Dumbledore's Secret-Keeper for the Order, 你 know -- nobody can find Headquarters unless he tells them personally where it is" (OotP 115/107)

Dumbledore is Secret-Keeper, but who cast the charm? I think it is generally assumed that Dumbledore himself cast the charm, but this cannot be so, because if 你 follow the above example the spell only breaks upon the death of the caster, we see now that the location of 12 Grimmauld Place is still protected after Dumbledore's death.

It seems a logical conclusion is that Severus Snape could have been the caster, as it has to be someone still alive after Dumbledore wasn't. This is just another example of how deeply Dumbledore trusted Snape, to have 给 him such a powerful position in the secret of the headquarters of the Order.


OK. So now, because of how it is described why Harry and Hermione can see the remains of the house at Godric's Hollow, we have a new understanding of the complexity of the Fidelius Charm. So, J.K.'s 描述 of the charm should really have been:

When a Secret-Keeper dies, their secret dies with them. Everybody in whom they confided will continue to know the hidden information, but nobody else. UNTIL the spell caster dies, then the secret is revealed to everyone.

But wait, the spell gets even 更多 complex. In Deathly Hallows, we learn why the Burrow has replaced 12 Grimmauld Place as the headquarters of the Order:

Mr. Weasley had explained that after the death of Dumbledore, their Secret-Keeper, each of the people to whom Dumbledore had confided Grimmauld Place's location had become a Secret-Keeper in turn. "And as there are around 20 of us, that greatly dilutes the power of the Fidelius Charm." (DH 90/79)

So, was it a mistake to tell so many people the secret of 12 Grimmauld Place? It would be unavoidable, everyone who was in the Order and had to go there would have to know. Does this infer that Dumbledore knew the spell would eventually be very diluted, and so therefore only intended that the building be the headquarters of the Order for a short time?

We must ammend the original 描述 yet again:

When a Secret-Keeper dies, their secret dies with them. Everybody in whom they confided will continue to know the hidden information, but nobody else. UNLESS the Secret-Keeper dies, then all those who know the secret become Secret-Keepers. UNTIL the spell caster dies, then the secret is revealed to everyone.

In Deathly Hallows, we learn about another complexity of the charm, and why it's so tricky to use. After their escape from the Ministry, Hermione says:

"As we Disapparated, Yaxley caught hold of me ... we arrived at Grimmauld Place ... I've already taken him inside the Fidelius Charm's protection. Since Dumbledore died, we're Secret-Keepers, so I've 给 him the secret, haven't I?" There was no pretending; Harry was sure she was right. It was a serious blow. If Yaxley could now get inside the house, there was no way that they could return. Even now he could be bringing other Death Eaters in there 由 Apparition (DH 270/223)

When Hermione inadvertently revealed the secret to Yaxley, since she was a Secret-Keeper, she has 给 him the secret. So, as we can see now, for the Fidelius Charm to be effective, both the caster and the Secret-Keeper must remain alive, and the Secret-Keeper needs to give out the information necessary with extreme caution -- one mistake will cost both the Secret-Keeper's life and lead to the revelation of the secret.

And this uncovers another big flaw in how the Fidelius Charm works. If 你 know the secret of a hidden place, 你 can bring in someone else who doesn't know the secret, if 你 bring them in using side-along apparition.

So the charm has huge flaws -- but what about its complexity? How difficult a charm is it to cast, and how long does it take? How does it take effect? Does the property simply vanish into thin air, concealed as Grimmauld Place is in nothingness? Who can see it the moment the charm is done -- are 你 exempt if 你 are within the boundaries?

Trapped in the dungeon of Malfoy Mansion, Harry tells Dobby:

"Right. Dobby, I want 你 to grab Luna, Dean, and Mr. Ollivander, and take them -- take them to --" "Bill and Fleur's," 说 Ron. "Shell Cottage on the outskirts of Tinworth!" (DH 468/379)

And Dobby obviously finds Shell Cottage, as we see Luna, Dean and Mr. Ollivander had made it there. A little later, Harry and Dobby, who had returned to the Mansion, escape in the middle of the fierce battle to capture him. Harry grabs Dobby's hand and disapparates them both through the sheer power of his will to Shell Cottage.

Back at the cottage, after Harry buried Dobby, Bill tells Harry:

"...The Death Eater's know Ron's with 你 now, they're bound to target the family" ... "How are they protected?" asked Harry. "Fidelius Charm. Dad's Secret-Keeper. And we've done it on this cottage too; I'm Secret-Keeper here." (DH 482/390)

Dobby found Shell Cottage the first time on his own, so it couldn't have had the Fidelius charm on it at that point. It couldn't have been added in the time between Dobby's first trip and when Harry brought Dobby back there, because even if Dobby had been told the secret, he didn't have time to tell it to Harry, and Harry found Shell Cottage all on his own, so it couldn't have had the Fidelius Charm on it then either. So, these new Fidelius Charms must have been added between the time that Harry arrived at Shell Cottage, and when he returned to it after burying Dobby.

But, this means that if 你 are within sight of the protected area before the charm is cast, 你 don't need to be let in on the secret, because we have now pinned down when the Fidelius Charm must have been placed on Shell Cottage, during the time Harry was off burying Dobby, HOWEVER, he did NOT need to be told the secret to return to the cottage. He just turned back to it and it was still there.

So, let's fully restate it one 更多 time, with everything we know:

When a Secret-Keeper dies, their secret dies with them. Everybody in whom they confided will continue to know the hidden information, but nobody else. EXCEPT if 你 are within the premises of the protected area when the spell is cast, 你 do not need to be told the secret. AND if 你 know a secret place, 你 can bring someone who doesn't know the secret into the hidden place using side-along apparition. UNLESS the Secret-Keeper dies, then all those who know the secret become Secret-Keepers. UNTIL the spell caster dies, then the secret is revealed to everyone.

Knowing what we know now from the information in the books, this leads us to dark and ominous 问题 such as:

Would the Potters really had been any safer if Sirius Black had indeed been the Secret-Keeper? At some point would he have only had to tell Peter Pettigrew for Pettigrew to sell Sirius to Voldemort, in order for Sirius to die, and make Pettigrew a Secret-Keeper 由 default.

And, if Bathilda Bagshot had wandered into the garden of the Potter's 首页 just as the Fidelius Charm was performed, would she too, like how Harry saw Shell Cottage, be able to continue to see the house and its residents without having been told the newly formed secret? Would she have kept the secret, even under the Imperius curse?

The flaws, the discrepancies, and in some ways, the reliance on mere chance, leads to the unnerving conclusion that if the Fidelius Charm really was the Potter's best chance of survival, then perhaps it was always only just a matter of time before Voldemort got to them, no matter who had been chosen as Secret-Keeper. If Sirius had lived, could perhaps this realization have lessened the guilt he felt for feeling responsible for James and Lily's death?

It would seem that the Fidelius Charm, on closer inspection, is not the powerful security measure that we were led to believe it was.
posted by zar_far11
All of us Potterheads obviously had some strong emotions when the last Harry Potter movie came out, marking the end of the memorable HP era. But the actors that played the Golden Trio (Emma Watson, Daniel Radcliffe, and Rupert Grint) obviously were very sad about the end of their career at Leavesden Studios. I put together some of the things the trio said, proving their internal and external emotions about them being sad about the end of HP.

These are their reactions to Harry Potter's ending.

Emma Watson [after premiere of DHp2] : "I feel like someone's dying, I know that sounds like an exaggeration...
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posted by zar_far11
 From the beginning...
From the beginning...
HARRY POTTER
1090739 Words
3363 Pages
199 Chapters
17 hours and 14 分钟
8 电影院
7 图书
1 story

When you're so close to the end 你 have to remember the beginning. Seven years later, Same people and story. Yet, everything changed.

We defended the Stone, we found the Chamber, we saved the Prisoner, we were chosen 由 the Goblet, we fought alongside the Order, we learned from the Prince, and we mastered the Hallows.

The best ten years of my life included Harry Potter.

Harry Potter:The Chosen One.
Hermione Granger: the brightest witch.
Ron Weasley: is our king.

The Movie Magic began on: November...
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 Bill, the 《勇敢传说》 man who risked his life for those he loved.
Bill, the brave man who risked his life for those he loved.
In my opinion, the Weasleys are the best magical family in the world. The Weasleys, a family of nine, are the ones who comforted and appreciated Harry, treating him as one of their own. They are the ones who first made Harry feel as if he still did have family left. The Weasleys are inspirational and fun. I would like to honor them 由 写作 my 最喜爱的 things about each of them.

Arthur Weasley
I loved Arthur for his curious ways, and for not caring about Harry because he was famous, but for caring about him because he was Ron's best friend (and of course, for the fact that he was raised by...
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posted by mimivilee
Hey!
I decided to write this 文章 because I want to know if anyone else had my view.
I don't see why people like Snape so much. Please, don't throw stuff at me for saying it but I don't!
Yes he has a mega crush on Lily Evans (I know it was much 更多 than a crush but it never went further), but James Potter died for Lily, and had a son with her. Without James Harry Potter would never have even existed.
When people think about Snape, they usually only remember one line... "Always", this did make me cry in the film, however all it means is that he will always 爱情 Lily, James loved her 更多 than...
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posted by princessofmagic
Calypso's POV

The nightmares were horrible. They weren't so much as her imagination, but memories. When ever he had one of his random, unpredictable mood swings 或者 got drunk -or both-, he would come into whatever room she was in and beet her, then literaly drag her to 'The room'. It was one of the smallest rooms in the whole manor, like a walk in closet. He would lock her in there, once for days, until one of the house elfs would unlock the door when they new father wasn't drunk and wouldn't notice,and send her to her room. There was never a single time she didnt have a single bruise. Until,...
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posted by ginnyweasleyfan
Spiders, a certain red head's worst enemy
Ron was sat in his bedroom 阅读 some very interesting wizard comics when he spotted a very large 蜘蛛 stood just near his feet.
Ron got scared and he screamed like a little girl causing the whole family to come running into his bedroom.
"What's wrong Ron?"
"T-t-there's a 蜘蛛 near my feet, get it away" he said, shaking. The twins burst out laughing.
"Don't worry Ron, we'll get rid of the spider", he 说 to Ron.
"KILL IT, STUN IT, STOMP ON IT, ANYTHING AS LONG AS IT'S OUT OF MY WAY" screamed Ron, his face going red. Ginny giggled and went out of the...
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posted by wolfgrrl
Yay! In a matter of months, Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows will be in theaters! This is the final book, but not the final movie, as it is been put into two parts. But it's in 3D! After 你 go watch the movie, put your opinion on the 粉丝 wall, please. I'll put mine. I can't wait! I'm so ready! I've been watching every HP movie and I have all the books, and Harry's wand! I finished the series three years ago, but I plan on re-reading it. The first 预览 of the 1st half has been released. I heard these awesome lines. Check it:
"Why do 你 live?" Voldemort said.
"Because I have something worth living for." Harry said.

Harry 说 that in another movie, so I guess he was emphasizing it. Check the 粉丝 墙 later for my 最喜爱的 book, movie, and quote! See ya!
The Harry Potter Series is wonderful thing. It is a world full of magic that just sparks your imagination. All the creatures are magical and wonderful. The series is full of adventure and romance. I 爱情 Harry's character. He has 迷失 his parents, he sometimes feels emotionally challenged, and there is a small dark side to him. It really brings out the mystery in the story. It is an ongoing plot that is a continuing struggle with Lord Voldemort, and every time they think that they've caught him he escapes. I own all the 图书 and have seen all the 电影院 in the theaters. It is full of suspense and action. I think the biggest mystery right now is who will Harry end up with. He has gone through a variety of girls that he likes, although he has always been wavering on the thin line between another girl and Hermione. I guess if you've already read the 图书 你 know, but I'm not going to spoil the surprise.
你 know you've read SS/PS one too many times when 你 . . .

1. Continually ask people if they want a 柠檬 Drop.

2. Throw blankets over yourself and insist you're invisble.

3. Tell your hats that 你 don't want to be put it Slytherin.

4. Wince and grab your forehead every time 你 see a man wearing a turban.

5. Ask snakes if they can hear you.

6. Instruct your chess pieces where to move.

7. Paint walnuts yellow, toss them in the air, and say you're the youngest seeker in a century.

8. Choke on 说 walnut, and say that you've caught the Snitch.

9. Act genuinely surprised when 你 get presents for Christmas....
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posted by shieldmaiden
So I was looking on 脸谱 earlier and just saw an event 发布 declaring February 20th to be Harry Potter day! =D So this is for all Harry Potter 粉丝 to dress up on and 显示 their pride and happiness that Voldemort has finally fallen. I find this to be a great way to keep the spirit of these amazing novels alive because even though we have limited Harry Potter releases left to celebrate, now we can celebrate every 年 on the 20th of February! I don't know why this 日期 was chosen, but I have a pretty good idea of why it was chosen for this year. Also on February 20th, there will be a lunar eclipse at around 9 PM I believe, so it sounds like a pretty magical day! So Harry Potter fans, dress up on the 20th! Wear your House scarves, sweaters, and ties! Whip out those wands and cast a spell 或者 two and keep the spirit alive!

Link to 脸谱 event declaring this day: link
posted by Sasuto23
i beleive that dumbledore is not dead. pettigrew drank VERY long lasting pollijuice potion n was controlled with the imperious curse an snape killed him while the real dumbledore was in hiding that night
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