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posted by luv_warriorcatz
All credits go to Das_Mervin's sporking of the Twilight series: link

I just wanted to cut out this snippet and paste it here because I completely agree here. There is no being that's invincible, no matter how unnecessarily overpowered 你 make them.
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Meyer thinks that humans are limited to two types of weapons: 枪 and slow-moving bombs. Oh, Meyer. 你 silly, silly bitch. There is one thing that we humans have been consistently good at since we first picked up a rock and looked speculatively at that 龟, 海龟 hiding smugly inside of its shell:

We’re really, really good at figuring out how to kill things.

But we don’t like to stop at “kill it dead”. Nah, that’d be boring. We like to figure out inventive ways to kill things. And we like to do it with pizzazz. We like to figure out how we can kill as many things as possible with just one tiny weapon. We like to think up many different kinds of weapons to do the job for us. We also like to see if we can kill just that one thing that’s hiding and leave everything else around it untouched. We can target literally anything we want. All we need to do is exploit a distinctive trait that whatever we want dead has. We can kill multiples, we can kill singles, and we can do it creatively.

And it is the twenty-first century. We are armed with a lot 更多 than just sticks and, what did 你 call them in Bree Tanner…ah yes, “pop-guns”.

A whole lot more. (link)

Think of the sheer amount of military-grade weaponry 你 know about from the USA alone. Now think about all of the military-grade weaponry 你 know about from other countries. And now think about all of the military-grade weaponry 你 probably don’t know about because it’s kept 最佳, 返回页首 secret.

Your 吸血鬼 have basically just revealed themselves to humanity. We know they would—look no further than Bree’s own words about her species to get confirmation of that:


"Again, I imagined the whole horde of us on the loose without a curfew. I could see Diego and me moving like ninjas through the shade. But I could also see Raoul, Kevin, and the rest, sparkling disco-ball monsters in the center of a busy downtown street, the bodies piling up, the screaming, the helicopters whirring, the soft, helpless cops with their dinky little bullets that wouldn’t make a dent, the cameras, the panic that would spread so fast as the pictures bounced swiftly around the globe.

吸血鬼 wouldn’t be a secret for very long. Even Raoul couldn’t kill people fast enough to keep the story from spreading."

Yeah. Without fear of repercussions, 吸血鬼 would gladly march out into the sun and start killing people for no other reason than to laugh and 显示 everyone how powerful they are and crush the humans beneath them because they’re gods and humans are tasty morsels.

你 have just introduced a global threat to the human race. This isn’t something that is attacking one country—oh no, these things are attacking everybody. This is the equivalent of an alien invasion.

*delicately* 你 just united seven billion people against a common enemy, and those seven billion people have 更多 technology, weapons, and ways to kill 你 than 你 can possibly comprehend.

你 can’t hide—we can easily find you. 你 can’t blend in—Meyer didn’t make 你 that way. 你 can’t run—your 最佳, 返回页首 speed is 180 mph. 你 can’t hide behind human shields—we can narrow the focus and kill just you. And most of all, 你 do not have the advantage. Meyer’s all about numbers, as we know, and brute force. It is now, at most, a few thousand 吸血鬼 against SEVEN FUCKING BILLION.

THAT. IS NOT. A SMALL. NUMBER.

THAT IS A BIG NUMBER!!!!!

I know 你 think you’ve made your 吸血鬼 invincible against humans, Meyer, but the truth is 你 haven’t. Aro is right—humans would wipe them out. We would. We would kill them all, your precious Cullens included. And if 你 continue to insist that no mere human weaponry could kill them, well, 你 also provided humans with two potential allies that are very powerful and can definitely kill your vampires, because they have.

Shape-shifters and werewolves. Shape-shifters are guardians against vampires, and 狼人 were driven to the brink of extinction 由 vampires.

The only possible way the Cullens could survive a human uprising would be to side with the humans and reveal all vampire weaknesses and fight with them. Even then, they would so not get to go back to their lifestyle once it was over. They would have severe regulations and restrictions placed upon them—if they weren’t just locked up in a lab on Area 51 for the rest of eternity—to say nothing of what the government and law officials would say when they discovered all of the ill-gotten gains the Cullens have been sitting on for the past few centuries. All of that money would go bye-bye.

Basically, Meyer, what I’m trying to say is that 你 have made yourself a world where they Volturi have to exist for your Cullens to enjoy your perfect 幻想 life. The Volturi are guaranteeing the Cullens’ lavish, untouched existence. They don’t have to worry about the Southern 吸血鬼 coming up and trying to take them out and take their territories, they don’t have to worry about vampire 婴儿 eating all their 食物 或者 destroying their stuff, they don’t have to worry about 狼人 killing them, and they don’t have to worry about humans tracking them via their heat-sink bodies 或者 a slight glimmer from their sparkly cells and firebombing the shit out of them. They get to live without fear of anybody killing them and get to enjoy all of that money and rich stuff because the Volturi keep 吸血鬼 in check and make sure they don’t run wild and destroy the world—because 你 说 it yourself. Without the Volturi, they would.

你 fail on every conceivable level.
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posted by potteralltheway
I have actually read both series and liked Twilight okay, but Harry Potter rules for me!

First, the so often brought up topic... love, 或者 lack thereof. Harry Potter consists of all sorts of love: family, parental, romantic, friend. Twilight consists of pure lust. Now for the evidence! Mrs. Molly Weasley killed Bellatrix Lestrange because Bellatrix nearly killed Ginny, her only daughter. The Weasleys all look out for each other, and even Percy apologized in the seventh book. They joined together in dark times, happy ones, sad ones, and when 费雷德 died. 你 might say the Cullens 显示 family love....
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I'm going to start doing 文章 like this because I think it's fun and I just wanna see who thinks one character is better than the other.

Before 你 guys start, let me tell 你 my opinion. I think that Bellatrix is the better villan because she's mean, crazy and cruel but also happens to have good fighting skills, even though I hate her for hurting Hermione. She's also not afraid [potterheads correct me if i'm wrong] to kill others. She pretty much has the ultimate personality and guts that Villaness's have.

Those are my opinions. Now... feel free to add yours!! Enjoy:)
PREFACE - THE JEALOUS-FALLACY IN ITS MANY FORMS

Alright, I have already dissected one very common fallacy invoked 由 some Twilight 粉丝 and a few Harry Potter 粉丝 as well, the Edward-fallacy. I shall not discuss that one but instead I will be moving on and examine another common fallacy invoked 由 some fans, using what I believe is the two most common forms of it.

"YOU ARE JUST JEALOUS, THEREFORE YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID"

Firstly, let us examine the logical reasoning behind "You are just jealous, therefore your argument is invalid".
It is invoked when any 粉丝 post an argument and employes this...
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1. It has better writing.
2. It's plotline is better.
3. I'd rather read a book about a teenage boy going to a wizardry school and fighting a dark sorceror than one about a ditzy girl who's way too obsessed with her sparkly boyfriend.
4. The characters are 更多 relateable.
5. J.K. Rowling is not afraid to kill off plenty of good guys.
6. Most of the characters' educations actually matter to them.
7. It doesn't have thousands of rabid fangirls.
8. The characters are 更多 three-dimensional.
9. It stays true to mythology.
10. It has 更多 types of 爱情 in it, not just romantic and sexual 爱情 (or should...
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harry potter is now logged in
harry ;anyone here i bored and can't do Magie
Ginny;y w has now logged in
ginny; yea am here this is why better then are old owl 哈哈
harry; huh? 哈哈 wants that tell ron say hi d hi
ron w has lodged in
ron; hi harry was up and ginny get out of this chat room
ginny; u can't make me
harry; ron ginny be nice and can any one till me what 哈哈 and waz means
ginny; 哈哈 means laughter out loud and wazwantt is up
ron ;lol means laughh out loud and waz want is up
ginny; 你 took the words right out of my mouth
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edwardcullen; I WEAR GIRLS CLOTHS AND AM A SPIKING VAMPIRE WHO HAPPENS TO BE IN 爱情 WITH A HUMAN GIRL
harry; freak
ron; yea
ginny; get off hear your in the wrong chat room go to the one with the six 年 olds
edwardcullen; ok
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first off i would like to say that i used to like t but everyone ruined it.

hp is so much better because its about friendship and standing up for your self it shows fear and judement and kind and tenderness which in twilight its just about useing people to benifit 你 and doin iti mean in twilight, it takes edward and bella what a week to fall in 爱情 it takes ron and herimone over 7 years and harry starts to relize he loves ginny after 5 years! and not to mention hp is fun for everyone some people might be afraid of the fact of a man eating vampire watching them not knowing when there going to attack out of hunger. so when 你 "twilight" 粉丝 find some real evidence that twilight has any real moral to it let me know cause i really like to know wat 你 think. 或者 just 评论 on this 文章 PEACE, sy-sy
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