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Helene17Norway Here they don't have to beg or look for food in the trashcan, the gouverment takes all our taxmoney and gives it to them so they get a free house and free kidnergardens and so on.

elenikabouri Helene I think you advertise your country to immigrants the best way you could,speaking for all the privileges immigrants have in Norway.

Helene17Norway OH believe me,they already know. People down in SOmalia, Iraq, Afghanitan and Africa all have heard of it through friends and family who already came to Norway.

elenikabouri Are there places in Oslo,where there are not immigrants ?

Helene17Norway well, on the rich westside they still are, but it's still a minor there, cause it's to expensive for them to live there It's mostly celebrities and rich people who lives on the westside

elenikabouri What about the place,where Alexander lives?

Helene17Norway Alex lives on Aker Brygge, which is also a place where lot of rich people live, but it's still less immigrants on the other rich places ( Frogner, St.hanshaugen and so on ) than on aker brygge. But Aker Brygge ain't bad, it' afe there as long as you're not alone and don't walk there at night. It's the eastcoast you need to be careful on ( Grønland and Groruddalen and around there )

elenikabouri I don't think there is any place in the whole world,where someone,especially a woman can walk alone at nights. It would be dangerous,even if there were not immigrants at all!

Helene17Norway It was completely safe 40 years back when they weren't in Oslo. And in other towns in norway which barely got immigrants girls never gets harrased and can walk home alone at night whenever they want. You have to live in Norway to see it. I live in a tiny town which got many immigrants but not nearly as many as Oslo, and I can walk outside whenever I want while my friend in Oslo often doesn't dare to leave the house after dark.

elenikabouri Well,here where I live,i don't dare to walk alone at nights. I have to look all around me all the time,being afraid that someone will attack me. I walk very quickly and without looking at anyone.

Helene17Norway That sucks. Here where I live i often go for a walk after 12 in the middle of the night with my Ipod blasting, through the cemetary and dark alleys, completely safe.

elenikabouri I even try not to make noise with my heels. You know,some men consider that as a challenge.

rebecca19 The ironic thing is that those who come here with bad intentions, complain abt western culture being pushed on to them, when on the other hand, they are happy to get the free health care system, education, housing and so forth the country provides -if they did not want western influence in their lives, then why come to a western country to stay. Not only this they expect ppl to change whn they are in a western country to meet their needs ie for local ppl to wear outfit related to their religion, build religious sites, etc- thts wht you call fascism and forcing your beliefs onto others, rather thn a freedom of speech to wear wht you want etc LIKE I SAID, NOT all immigrants are like tht , just the one with the bad intensions. I dont mind those who come here with peaceful causes and wish to stay x

Helene17Norway They follow each and every wordo f the Qoran. The Qoran says that Islam shall take over the world, and it has already started. It will be like when christianity took over Norway around the year 1000: A horrible, bloody hell where peopel who refuse to convert to Islam will lose their head and get stoned.

s0nja Some politicians here say that we need immigrants. Because they do some jobs that an ethnic Finn wouldn't do. Here in my town I don't like to walk alone outside when it's dark, because I always then have the thoughts of rape and stuff in my head... :/

Helene17Norway Not many immigrants work here, mostly the russians, polish, finnish, swedish and other european/ eastern european people. And well, now we can read on a daily basis again about African men who rapes norwegian woman every day in the newspaper. You can clearly see that spring is coming to Oslo cause now the hunting season on norwegian womans have begun.

s0nja -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- and still the government is sitting on their chairs drinking coffee and doing unnecessary stuff?! O.o -.-

Helene17Norway Yep, they just say that its a one time thing, and that we need to stop being racist.

Helene17Norway from august next year, they will build muslim private schools in Oslo. there they will learn arabic and the Qoran and Islam will be the main thing they will focus on. This means they will distance themselfs from us even more, and since it's muslims running the schools, it means the norwegians have no control over what will happen in those schools. Most likely it will be like the muslim private schools in England, where they learn how to stone gay people, how to beat your wife without leaving marks and how to cut off the hand of a thief.

rebecca19 @Helene i did not know tht abt england, yeah fair enough they have muslim schools, etc because they think evryone is entitled to own culture and we are a democracy, also england accepts gay people and does not mind them, we are country who is open and forthcoming abt that kind of issue and no one feels is something to be ashamed off. Ok so i live in Scotland, so i do not know fully, if this kind of thing happens in england, because england is bigger than us and generally majority of muslims live down there, so we rarely come across many muslims or mosques up here, yet i still am doubtful whether this kind of teaching and schools would be allowed to open in england if this was the case.

Helene17Norway http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/8150247/Muslim-pupils-learn-to-cut-off-hands-of-thieves.html http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/02/british-islamic-schools-caught-beating-children-teaching-that-unbelievers-are-worst-creatures-and-th.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1574694/Bishop-warns-of-no- go-zones-for-non-Muslims.html There was this big article about it in Norway, and Norway are using Sweden and England as examples whe nthey talk about Islaminations.

rebecca19 That was both disgusting and sickening to read. I do not understand though this issue is never mentioned on the news, radio or paper headlines so make you wonder, if this is the case in England the Sweden has my sympathy as well. Like i said i dont live in england, so do not hear of this kind of thing happening or see it either, as we have local scottish news etc that tells us news around scotland, not really rest of uk, but i do know frm friends who live in england, tht they have quite a lot of immigrants staying there, and muslim community in various cities around there as well, so if this kind of hting does happen in england then it makes me sick and i hope they sort it out cause its horrible , as i would hate to see this happening here where i live as well x

Helene17Norway They won't be able to sort it out. It's to late. As soon as they are the majority they will slowly take over and rule over the country who was stupid enough to take them in. The worst part is that our gouverment is to stupid to see it, cause they are rich and doesn't have to live in the middle of the ghetto, but can rather live on the rich west coast with 100% white people. In Norway you can read about shit they do every day. Like today, taxi dirvers in Oslo are 99% of them fro mthe middle east/afrika, and today we found out they refuse to drive jews, blind people with dogs, and other anti-islamic things. If that was a norwegian who refused to drive a muslim, he'd lose his job, the muslim would go to the media with crocodile tears in his eyes and make a true hell, but because it were muslims who behaves like this, people with no respect for us filthy non-islamic pigs, it's ok to do it. This is why norwegains hate Norway, we're tired of always coming on second place.

rebecca19 Yeah its ironic, that muslims moan abt western culture, yet say they want to be treated in a western country like the same ie same healthcare, same salary, same equal opportunities. Its funny because its their attention seeking attitude tht we are forcing our culture and beliefs onto them and the its actually thm who do it to us, the west does not give a shit abt trying to place beliefs onto muslims etc, its a democracy and does not feel tht forcing beliefs is right thing to do, that is fascism and not nice, i think as well we couldnt give a damn abt trying to place beliefs and religions onto others, its wrong and also waste of time. If you are muslim etc and do not like the west, fair enough you are entitled to own opinions which i respect, just dont go to western country if you dont like it and expect free education, dental treatment, hospital care, etc. I hate today's society where racism etc is one sided, there was story in english paper abt this women who owned a hairdresser and she was looking to employ another member of staff, and this muslim women went to apply for job wearing traditional head outfit which covered her hair and most of face, so the women interveiwed her and felt that she was not right for job, and had little expereince working with ppl etc, so the muslim women went to paper, and sai the women who owned shop was racist and did not give her the job because she was muslim and so the muslim women got money for this, and the women who owned the hairdressing shop lost her job and business because ppl said she was rascist, if tht was a non muslim girl who applied for hiardresser and owner didnt think she was right for job based on qualifications, then if tht girl went to paper abt this, ppl would just laugh at her and tell her to stop being stupid- one sided racism is disgusting and its rascism in its self in fact tht we are being discriminated against because we are not muslim etc, so its ok for others to call us pigs etc as long as we dont call them tht as tht is rascism- urgh! *i have nothing against those who are muslim etc and respect our culture and do not try to change our country and force their religion on to us* Anyways me going to emigrate to BELGIUM, or czech republic or maybe neutral switzerland- cause it looks nice there x

Helene17Norway exactly! Thats what they do over here! A woman was gonna hire a muslim man, but because he refused to handshake with womans ( he had to do that in his service job ) she didn't give him the job, and he did of course go to the media about it. Luckily, the woman didn't lose her job. Same thing with those people who are gonnasell you houses. If you're a girl theyrefuse to let you inside, and then call to get a male seller instead.