nahh man. he didn't expect Sam to die. he expected Sam to win and lead his demon army from hell, since he was such a well trained soldier.

and the part that KILLS me every single time is that .. Sam WOULD have won if he hadn't decided NOT to kill Jake.

rawr >:( bad move Sammy.

YED had his hero - Jake and his victim - John, on the rack in Hell. When Dean sold his soul and John escaped, it must'ave been a dream come true for the demons who knew about YED's endgame..
i don't think that the other special children were only a mislead for two reasons..YED took Jake under his wing when Sam died and even used him to open the Hell gate and when Sam showed up alive and well Azazel seemed truly surprised and pleased..he certainly didn't see Dean's coming or knew it was going to happen...when he met Dean in '73 he had no ability to see the future or else he would have known Dean was going to kill him..

mhm :) what you said miss lucy ♥

The YED's plan was to open up hell's gates and he was going to do that with any of the special children that "won". Sam dying and Dean selling his soul wasn't exactly his ultimate plan, but I think it might have been the plan of other demons, maybe higher up on the demon totem pole. Whether or not they were planning that the whole time I don't know. But I don't believe it was the YED's plan.

Well, I don't think it would take much insight into Dean's psyche to see that he'd be willing/capable of selling his soul for his brother. Also it wouldn't be hard to predict that Sam would hesitate to kill Jake and thereby leave himself open to attack. All throughout Season 2 he fears becoming a killer so of course he's not going to give in to what he thinks Azazel wants and kill Jake.

The whole thing sets up future events perfectly. Dean's eventual death is exactly the impetus Sam needed to started using his powers.

I also wonder if Azazel knew exactly what was going to happen- just like the angels did. It's possible that Zachariah told him (their goals were the same after all, even if their motivations are different) or it's possible that Azazel knew of Chuck and got his info from him. All he'd have to do is set up the dominoes and watch them fall into place.

As for Azazel taking Jake under his wing- again, he's just setting up the dominoes. And his "surprise" that Sam was alive? Demon's are consummate liars/actors (just look at Ruby).

And it's also possible that he knew of his own death. After all, Lilith sacrificed herself to free Lucifer- why wouldn't Azazel be willing to do the same?

fanfly! you know i love your comments right?

lol lucy! You know I love your picks right? =D

Well even YED said that he knew he could count on dean's self-sacrificing nature and his need put his family's life over his.....although i could rant, fanfly pretty much covered everything else i wanted to say.

i can't help but wonder if sam was met to go to heaven, hell, paradise or where ever he went. so they could do something 2 him.
I can't help but think about what YED said, "are you sure what you brought back was 100% sam." Now he could have just said that to plant the seed of doubt into dean's head....but sam's powers jumped from visions to being able to do a heck of a lot more, and going in the direction of bordering demonic.

You know what I just realized? I was watching Croatoan and that demon-possessed Dwayne guy is standing right there when Dean decides to stay and die with Sam, rather than escape with the others. So right there is proof that Azazel knew that Dean was willing to die for Sam. Also, proof that he wasn't willing to kill him either. I think maybe Croatoan was a test for both the Winchesters.

I think all of the kids Azazel infected with demon blood were potential vessels. Sam was just his favourite option because of the training that hunting had given Sam (and probably also because he liked the idea of breaking and corrupting a hunter).

At the time, John was still the first option for being the "righteous man" who'd break the first seal. But the demons were also already considering the idea of replacing him with Dean if the opportunity came. Remember how that demon in Crossroad Blues tried to get Dean to make a deal to save John?