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*Sigh* now you know how I feel when I argue with her. Don't even bother, she's going to continue to tell you the same crap all over again, even tough you stated that you are not a MILLION times. Such as, when she called me homophobic just cuz I don't ship Hetalia Yaoi, and I sated many times that I'm NOT! She's a really ignorant and arrogant person, cannot believe she's older than me -_-
I don't think your being rude, in fact, I think what you said makes sense and I agree with you. She just has to comment on everything!!
I want her to respond to your comment.

There was nothing wrong with what you said, blackpanther666, I don't know why she'd jump on you so quickly. I'm all for Gay Rights, but it doesn't mean I like to 'Ship couples that are both straight and are of the same sex. I find it weird, since they're not even interested in the same sex they're in. But I'm slightly confused by something you said. Do you mean you find it weird to you personally to 'Ship high school girls, or what? It says in the beginning you do, and then later on I don't know what's going on. As a whole, though, I'm completely on your side.

Seems like she's got some problems.

She was being immature in those comments but you making this pick, where I'm sure you want people to side with you, seems rude too. You're calling her out for her comments by publicizing that minor dispute, and that isn't something I'd condone.

@LaDispute. Simply because I'm sick of her... She's really annoying me and I needed to know that there are other people that agree with me. Why? Because she has now personally offended about four of my friends and takes the chance to insult me and degrade my opinion wherever I go... I've had enough. If she's going to treat me like that, then I'm not going to play nice any more...

I don't see why she cares so much about what others ship ~ Her comments just seem very unnecessary and childish.

^ Pretty much that exactly. She's simply too immature to see that other people don't have to take her opinion into consideration... Instead, she'd rather waltz around making rude comments to anyone that doesn't share her views. I find that incredibly frustrating, hence why I bothered to make this poll. I guess I'm not going crazy, after all.

Before I say anything else I'd like to point out that both you and pumpkinqueen are friends of mine. I have had great conversations with both of you. I've debated with you a lot and you are very respectful and very reasonable and I don't want to offend either of you.

But, I kind of have to agree with LaDispute. Don't get me wrong I know how you feel; I've been targeted on the Once spot for my opinions, I was yelled at and insulted and what not to the point I almost cried to the point I left the spot for a bit, but I still can't bring myself to even mention their names. Creating a poll like this only adds fire to the flame if she were to see it. I felt bad calling the two bullying me out on a totally different site!

Yes her comments were mean and unkind but yours were too. That's how arguments are, I've been in a lot of them. I see why you made this pick, I've done things like that too. But next time I would recommend not mentioning names and instead of making a link to the debate maybe ask something like 'is yuri okay at a high school level' or 'is it perverted to like high school yuri' just take the debate and turn it into a poll here. I did so when asking if bashing a character's appearance is bashing the actress too. It makes you sound less mean.

As for She's really annoying me and I needed to know that there are other people that agree with me. Why? Because she has now personally offended about four of my friends and takes the chance to insult me and degrade my opinion wherever I go... I've had enough. Trust me with those two users from the Once spot I got the exact same feelings. They would yell at me for accidentally forgetting to include Mr. Gold as part of the main cast. It was a very small issue that they blew out of proportion. Even after I apologized and added him to my main cast list they continued to yell at me. You better believe I wanted to make a poll like this. Both were going at me and no one was helping me at all. I would have wanted to know people agreed with me, reassurance is always helpful. But that's what friends are for, tell them about it they will agree and you won't get in trouble for calling people out. That's what they want you to do, stoop to their level and look like the bad guy, I fell for that same trap.

^ Yeah, I see what you are saying... I'm simply saying I no longer care if I insult her. This isn't the first time she has been rude to me, therefore I'm not going to nice to her. However, I think you missed my whole problem with her - It's not about the yuri, what I first said was a reasonable enough comment... I didn't call anybody out or say anything rude, I was just stating how I think about it. The issue is that she was first rude to me, and simply acting like my opinion is her business, which it is not. If she doesn't agree with me about it, then she should say so in a different manner. I started off being rude, because I was annoyed that she hassled my friend, then said that she wasn't doing anything wrong. Therefore, I don't care about being rude to her. I wanted to see what other people think about it. I don't need assurance, it's just another topic up for discussion.

Yeah I get it, that's pretty much how I felt. There was that one final straw and boom, I was done being nice. You can only be nice for so long. I get that too, it's really hard to be nice to someone who is rude to you, you can only be nice to them for so long before you feel like you are letting them step all over you. Anyways, I should probably back out of this one, you two are both my internet friends and what not.

Ummm this whole argument is pretty dumb and I think you should've NEVER made this poll, BP, as zanhar said it would add to the flame.. You should delete it/have people report it.. It's just an overboard factor in my opinion.. I mean SHE could make a poll just like this about YOU. I'm sure you'd be furious with her and she is now to you because of this poll..

But that's why we have brains, to express our opinions and PQ just wanted to tell you that it's okay to ship Yuri and it's not all about sex, she just did that in a difficult way. And yes, I've debated with her too ^^ and we're still friends~

I just think your opinion was kinda ridiculous, saying how you don't ship Highschool girls and thinking its weird or perverted, but it's not so its okay. And yes, both of you were pretty tough on eachother..

After re-reading the comments I'm almost ready to change my answer. And I don't mean to be a beeotch and call her out but she just yelled at me for shipping a couple that had a girl of about 17 dating a 20 year old calling me a pedo and over here she yelling at you for not shipping it. She's actually been treating me and my friend pretty poorly lately. I'm almost sorry for not siding with you blackpanther...

I've seen it happen numerous times on this website. pumpkinqueen will completely turn on someone over the matter of personal interests and has a tendency of always throwing jabs at people when unnecessary. In all honesty, I think that that user needs to grow up, but I also slightly feel sorry for her. It seems to me as if she's having some sort of struggle between her own world of her favorite fandoms and reality.

Apparently, I'm not the only user who she completely changed her demeanor towards because we disagree about something anime/manga related.

She doesn't debate with people. If you're debating, you'll at least respect the opinion of the debater on the other side of the matter and both explain why your opinion is what it is. She always presents her opinion as superior, no matter what, despite that she's not even very skilled at carrying out her point, and despite what the user on the other side says, shoots down theirs and insults/snaps at them afterward.

She was banned for a reason.

Sure, it's good that she's stating her opinion, but that gave her no right to be rude about Panther's.

@EmoSasuSaku. I think your opinion was slightly biased. It wasn't really a debate... it was a comment on a poll, that got turned into argument, simply because she felt the need to attack my opinion. For the record, I didn't use the word 'perverted'... don't make it out to sound like more than it was. I was simply stating how I felt about the shipping. I said that I didn't really like shipping high school couples that much, because I thought it was a bit weird to be doing that, personally, when I'm 20-something and am technically considered to be an adult. I wasn't looking for a fight on that poll, just to add a comment. I don't do that to people. Also, PQ ended up getting banned for talking to people like they were trash. I think you just defended her, because she was your friend. Which is fair enough. I made the poll, because I wanted to get her off Fanpop... I was gonna show that poll to people, so that would see what see was really like and want to report her for being horrible to people. Which she was. She was so rude to many people. I even tried to resolve the problems with her, then she went and started picking on a good friend of mine.

I do not believe pumpkinqueen was not just strawmanning blackpanther in that argument.

@IllusionDolls I totally hear you. She used to be one of my favorite users, but because I like the anime Free and because I defended Makorra fans she totally turned on me and I was like 'wow, what happened'. And this wasn't just on that spot she had bullied many users; if you were a fan of Mako or Makorra she would go at you. There was this one user and she harassed her daily and claimed it was debating. She also seemed to have it in for this user on the FMA spot, whenever he/she said anything (like the Makorra fan) she was up his/her anus calling him/her shallow stupid and biased. And if you liked Yaoi, you were a pedophile and only like it for the fanservice. And if you said that, that wasn't true she would get all mad at you for saying so. She also took a fanart I made, changed the coloring, called it her own, and got all mad at me when I asked her to please take it down or give me credit. (link) I feel kind of bad for her too as a lot of people are going against her, but that's what happens when you treat other people like that.

You definitely aren't. I was actually one of the first few users she talked to on fanpop. I was kind of the one who showed her the ups and downs of the site and helped her figure out how it worked. She was super nice when she first joined but once she started getting more fans and medals she started acting very different.

And that's also so true. She doesn't debate she is outright mean. She legit claims that something is just debating. It's not a debate if the other person is literally begging the other to stop. She goes off on these crazy rants that would be debates if she wasn't calling someone 'shallow' 'biased' 'immature' 'douchebag' ect. Long paragraphs riddled with name calling is not debating. That's just being out right mean. You can't press your opinion on someone and call it a debate. And then when I stuck up for said user, she claimed I was babying her. It was uncalled for.

She definitely was banned for a reason.

^She did that with me because of Death Note, even though she claims to like it. I created like/love/hate polls for various anime series in the anime fan club, and on almost every single one, she would find a way to compare it to Death Note and claim its superiority over Death Note with things like "Death Note has nothing on this" or "Death Note just doesn't compare to this", simply because she knows it is my favorite anime and I find one of hers to be overrated and mediocre. There was a time when I had considered dropping "Code Geass" because of problems I had w/the plot execution (even though I did end up picking it up again), and she went as far as to say, "Why are you dropping it? Because it has a deep plot that you actually have to pay attention to?" I didn't feel hurt, because I hardly knew her and she knew exactly what she was doing, but it was certainly frustrating.

It seems to me like she tries to see in others things that she hates in herself. For example, she has made it clear that she is a big Yaoi fan girl, so it seems odd that she would say that. I have seen many other cases like this that make me consider that.

Well, now that I have expressed the problems I've had with this user, and that she is already suspended, I am going to stop, unless there are any questions. I don't want to turn it into gossiping about someone else (albeit that what we have shared is obviously true).

Pumpkinqueen and I had more than a few arguments, especially on the anime debate page. She's very judgmental, and ideological in her judgments. Having a debate with her is impossible because she rarely respects your viewpoint if it's different from her own. You have to have a basic level of respect for your opponent and their arguments in order to hear them out and have a rational conversation on the issues. There's simply no way that can happen if you already know you're right on everything you choose to discuss.

That's all I'll say on her. I've been rather reserved about discussing these sorts of things in the past, but since this particular user also caused the banning of someone I was close to who is no longer on fanpop, I think it warrants some discussion of what these discussions should look like.

@IllusionDolls Did something like that to me too. She claimed that she like Legend Of Korra but was on the spot bashing every aspect except Asami. And when I asked her about it she claimed "I don't have to like everything about the show. It's like your asking me to spit rainbows and happiness and sugar coat everything in the comments all the time." It's like no, I'm asking you to be respectful and stop hating on everything about the show. Ya know, I think I actually saw that Code Geass one, in fact I think I sided with you on that one. And then I think she got her panties in a twist.

Sort of seems that way to me too. She talks of immaturity and bias and then she goes off insulting people for no reason and lets her bias take control. She also goes off calling people hypocrites, which in itself was almost hypocrisy. I noticed that too, she claimed to like yaoi, but everyone who likes yaoi 'only likes drooling over the abs.' I really couldn't tell if she like yaoi or not.

Yeah, I feel kind of bad talking behind her back. Kind of a low blow. I just had to gets some stuff of my chest. I just felt really back-stabbed.

@whiteflame Thank you! That's how I felt. Any healthy debate I tried to have started borderlineing on an argument so I ended up walking away. Every time I felt like she only heard what she wanted to and she didn't even try to see it from another point of view. I'm not saying she had to agree, but she discarded a lot of points simply because she didn't like them. She seemed to have this my opinion is fact, yours sucks outlook.

I hear you there too. Naturally I don't do this kind of thing but some of her attacks were just way too personal. She basically insulted my entire personality at one point. She got someone banned. Sorry about that.

PQ only cares on what she thinks, at first I liked her because she always snapped on people who dissed off other animes but then I saw the way she really treated other people. She really looks down on them and always thought she was right and I realize that she was a biased hypocrite (well most people are in a way). I hated it how she thought her opinions was always higher than other people's. She treats her opinions as if they were facts during any debate. She picks on too many people and then she always acts as if she was the hurt one, she offends people too much. If you ask me, I don't like her. I don't like her at all. She's mean, rude and very stuck up. I think she got what she deserved and should've realized that she was mean.

I feel you dude, I understand why you posted this poll, Pumpkinqueen got into an argument with my older sister about "eye candy shippings" and my sister tried to settle things nicely and explain it more calmly. Pumpkinqueen refused to listen and decided to take it further, she made a poll based on my sister and once my sister saw it she was mad. I was infuriated too because 1. That was really unnecessary 2. It was stupid and childish and 3. That makes you look like a bitch. After she saw it she tried to explain the whole situation and pretty much everyone agreed with my sister but that wasn't over for Pumpkinqueen, she continued to bother my sister but eventually she told PQ to shut up and stop bothering her and PQ stopped after that.

PQ is nothing but a cocky and immature child, is she really 20? Because if she is then that is sad, I've seen many 14 yr olds even a TEN year old child act respectful towards others and being more mature than she is. I'm 17 (Although my profile claims that I'm 20 but I just changed my birth year becuz I didn't want to put in the actual yr) and I act more mature now. Back then I used to be mean as PQ but I changed the way I acted because I didn't want to be hated by people I don't even know in person. She's also not a good debater, when you debate you use facts not your opinions and I see her mostly throw out her opinions and her insults, then she claims that she "wins" every debate. Why is it so hard for her to accept that sometimes you lose? Honestly, she only reads what she wants to see then the rest she treats it like shit. Her points are invalid and most of the time I'm sitting there going "WTF are you talking about?!" because they make NO sense!

BTW: Is she really banned or suspended? I keep reading that she is suspended but then people say that she's banned so which is it?

I think suspension and banning are the same thing. I've been suspended before (for posting a link on someone's wall, the site thought it was spam and auto-suspended me) I had to message the F4 to get it back. But then again her posts are still viewable, which indicates the possibility of coming back. You know you screwed up when all trances of your account are removed, and I've see that happen to users too.

To zanhar1:
I see that she may be coming back, I know that you guys were friends with her at first and I don't wanna sound as if I'm a bitch either but I don't want her to come back. She treated the whole Hetalia fan club as if she ran the club and she tried to control on what people thought and she treated everyone so lowly. I was hoping that she was banned so I will never see people ever having to deal with her bad attitude again. I've never been suspended for anything bad.

I'm not gonna feel sorry that a lot of people has turned against her, I truly won't. She has been so mean to a lot of people and she herself has turned against some of her own friends, she even went as far as to have a lot of people send hate messages to one of her old friends by lying that she was the victim. People like her should not use this site if they're gonna bring that attitude. I felt sorry that she has taken your fanart and claimed it as her own, that is something uncalled for and that's basically art-stealing if she didn't credit.

I saw that too. Oh well. We use to role play and stuff she got me into the FMA fandom. Such a shame. I kind of have the same feelings; I know it sounds bitchy but still after some of the things she called other useres and I...well I'm certainly not going to throw a welcome home party. She did that on the Korra spot too. If you like to ship Makorra you were shallow and immature or something. That's good, you seem like a nice user.

I feel bad but I don't it's more pity than sympathy. She bought it on herself. You can't just go around calling people pedophiles for what they ship and shoving your opinions down a person's throat and not expect people to fight back. I've heard about that one, and that's not okay. It's cool, it's over and done with it wasn't something I worked too incredibly hard on.

I want to be on good terms with everyone on this website, but they have returned, and I honestly feel uncomfortable speaking with them at all, because it's easy to tell that their attitude has not changed. Evidently, they believe that they were suspended because of trolls, and if they did not even consider that it was because of their own actions, that makes me very apprehensive about their return to Fanpop. If they didn't take the time to think about what they have done and how it has hurt others, chances of that streak continuing are not slim. I am very confident in the theory that "trolls" are not the cause of her being suspended, because when I was tired of watching the way she treated others on this website, and not being able to reason with her about it, I messaged Dave a detailed explanation about the situation, and she was banned about a day or two after I did so. I have to give everyone the benefit of the doubt; perhaps three months bring her to at least wonder if she had ever done something wrong during her time on this website, but for now, I will just wait and see how she does. If her harassment continues any further, I think that the best thing to do would be to talk to her about it (first), give her time, and if she still does not at least try to be less insolent and more polite, we will have to just report her again and tell an administrator that it's the only thing that can be done about the problem, and that it could not be helped.

I would like to state that I do like both you and pumpkinqueen, as users, but her lash out was quite uncalled for. She's also turned on me on a poll before, though I will give her the benefit of the doubt that I was an arrogant user back then. However, in this situation, I don't blame you for being upset, especially when she had come to such blasphemous assumptions about you.

PQ has her account back but I was told that her account isn't there again. I also found out that her little sister was also banned or suspended. I wonder what the heck happened.

She has a sister?

Lol

Yeah, her account was suspended/banned again... she picked a fight with the wrong person... it's funny, she just came back, then caused trouble all over again.

Figures. An opportunity to shape up and fly right, and she spurns it.

First, To Zanhar1, Yeah she has a sister. I was surprised myself when I found out that her sister just made an account.

And second off, wow I'm so stunned right now. She gets back and I thought she would try to be at least a little better but no, she goes ahead and screws things up. And by what? Getting into another fight, she doesn't know how to learn from mistakes does she?

Who did she get in a fight with this time?

Oh yeah, does anyone know if the account Edvygirl was an account that was manipulated by PQ? I had a feeling it was PQ because this Edvygirl sounded too much like PQ.

@fullmetal_ninja: I honestly think they are the same person. There was some evidence that they're probably the same person.

1. Their attitude. The way they act is so similar. We all know this one.
2. Their spelling. "Populer," for example. Also their overuse of commas. It's all the same.
3. Edvy claims she's British, but she spells like an American. I can recall she spelled 'rumour' as 'rumor.' (That comment is not there, any more, sadly.) Also, the fact that she uses the word 'trash.' I PERSONALLY met a British girl. She said that no British person uses the word 'trash' or 'garbage.' They use the word 'rubbish.' Apparently, trash and garbage are American words or something.
4. Edvy's overuse of British slang. The way she said it, it sounded DELIBERATE, and not natural at all.

I mean, even though they ARE two different people, at least I kind of proved that EdvyGrl is not British.

@fullmetal_ninja. A good friend of mine, KEISUKE_URAHARA. She had been targeting another friend of mine and got her banned from Fanpop, which resulted in her eventually getting banned for good. For some odd reason, she seemed to really hate me and my friends... maybe it was because we used to call her out for being rude to people all the time.

@blackpanther666
Well I don't know what her problem was but she treated me like crap just because I just said something on Fanpop and she also treated my friends like crap constantly, the only person whom she ever treated nicely was PumpkinQueen and it got me suspicious that it was another account made by PQ, but if it was another person then wow, what an ass-licker and a retarded person. Also thanks for proving your point Toast.

And another thing I didn't get was that I treated her nicely too, if I knew she was a major bitch like PQ I wouldn't hesitate to treat the two with a nasty attitude as well.

At the very least the Hetalia club will be at peace and despite that we have other jack-asses in the club PQ was the worst I've ever encountered. She basically treated everything like she created the club and thought she could ran the club. She tried to control everyone's thoughts to point where my friends were afraid to post up their opinions because of her, heck I even had one of my friends leave Hetalia because of that asshole. Those who disliked PQ knew damn well that she wouldn't last and guess what? They were right.

@RomanoItaria3 Well that's news to me.

@blackpanther She used to actually like me. But out of nowhere she just started to hate me. I think it was when I asked her to stop being so hateful towards Makorrafans.