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We’ve been wondering who the redheaded actress is who was photographed with the
The young woman was seen in northern-style costume and later out of costume in street clothes, giving Kit Harington a hug goodbye. In the articles, she’s labeled as Sophie Turner’s double, but with more time and consideration of the evidence at hand, it seems less and less likely to us that this is correct; in fact this actress probably has her own role in season 7.
She’s been identified by WotW commenter Darkstar, and now we know: the actress in the photos is Megan Parkinson.
Parkinson, who is 19 years old according to a profile of her published in May, is a National Youth Theatre alumnus, and hails from Yorkshire. She’s appeared on 
‘s report, referring to her as Turner’s double, at face value. However, after examining the photos further there are aspects that make it look like Parkinson is playing a new character this season.
The photographer who snapped the original photos of the cast that appeared in the Mail also posted a few more on their own Twitter, including this one of Parkinson. A crew member is fixing a leather belt onto her, and it looks like the round pommel of a sword is stuck up out of the belt:
The costume is northern and very plain in style. It’s not completely out of the realm of possibility for something Sansa might wear, but it’s unlikely. Similarly, we’re not likely to see Sansa with a sword belt. Parkinson is also probably not Turner’s double when she is a few inches shorter her, based on the photos of her standing with Harington.
So, who is Parkinson playing? Back in June, the first casting notices for season 7 included one for a 16-year-old Northern girl character. The character is part of “a high-stakes scene with leading cast members,” so working with Kit Harington, Gwendoline Christie, Liam Cunningham and more certainly fits the bill.
The same casting call was searching for a 10-year-old Northern boy, to be a part of the same “high-stakes” scene as the teenage girl. We saw in the pictures from
, there was also a boy about that age present and in costume.
Who is this Northern Girl? The show’s version of Alys Karstark, maybe? We didn’t see Lord Karstark die in season 6, but he may have off-screen in the battle, leaving that house to need a new representative. Or is she from another house in the North?
Of course she could be a completely new character, making her un-guessable! But hey, speculation is half the fun.
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My guess is Karstark judging from her appearance and that we never really closed out their part in the storyline definitively, but its just a guess.
Well, even if she is not Sansa’s body double, they sure look alike. I don’t think this is a coincidence. She is probably meant to look a lot like Sansa for some plot reason.
Assuming this is correct (seems likely), it must have been weird and/or frustrating for her to have photos of her filming reported in newspapers, but with her role misidentified.
I wondered about that, but when physical appearance matters to that degree (needing to resemble an existing character) the show typically includes relevant details in the casting notice. The “Northern girl” didn’t say anything about hair or eye colour.
She looks so much like Sansa that I am wondering if there would be a reason for Jon to need a Sansa decoy? Especially because Cersei would definitely be offering a high reward for Sansa’s death at this point.
-Jon will negotiate a marriage between them to bring Karstark/Umber back into the fold.
A good rule of thumb is that the Daily Mail is wrong! This applies to everything.
Alys Karstark is a ‘grey girl’, she looks like a Stark. Sansa does not look like a Stark. If she has a sword I would have guessed she’s Lyanna Mormont’s aunt.
I’m pretty convinced that the boy and girl are the heirs to Karstark and Umber. It seems like this scene is in the first two episodes so it would make sense to include a scene of Jon doing his first real king’s work bringing the rebellious houses back into the fold.
Which is which, though, who knows. Going by the book you would think the girl is Alys Karstark, but the show referenced Umber’s daughters last season, and that they were trained in hunting/fighting, so I could see them switching her to an Umber just for continuity’s sake and making the new Lord Karstark a little boy instead.
Either way, I would guess this is a riff on the Alys Karstark plot and she’ll marry Tormund to bring her own house, whichever it is, back into Jon’s fold and to tie the wildlings closer to the North. I could see Tormund going for a redheaded swordswoman, particularly is she’s maybe of the feisty Umber sort.
The most likely option seems to be that she is a Karstark (Harald Karstark being a redhead as well) , so she might be the show version of Alys Karstark. I wonder if she will have a similar role to that of book Alys or will her role on the show be something different.
The high stakes scene could be the Umber and Karstark heir being called to Winterfell to have Jon decide the future of their houses. The boy might be the next Lord Umber – TinyJon 🙂 .
The resemblance to Sophie is interesting, even though her build is quite different from Sophie’s.
You’re right. But maybe there was some part of the casting call that we didn’t see? They could have gone with every type of girl there is, and they go for an actress that looks so much like Sansa that everyone thought she was a body double? I think that even if she isn’t a decoy for Sansa, their similarity is going to be brought up.
I was pretty sure she wasn’t ST’s double given how light her hair is and how plain her clothes were. I have to wonder if she’s playing a highborn at all. At this point, I don’t see why so many are trying to align the show with parts of the novel story. Why not a lowborn victim of Ramsay’s or a servant who gets in the middle of things? She could frankly be anything.
you cant bring the Umbers into the fold anymore.They gave up their liege lord to die. They must be exiled and Last Hearth passed on to a new house. The Karstarks yes….they are starks after all …they rebelled because of Robbs stupidity.
My first thought was one of Tormunds daughters, maybe marrying her into a Northern family to cement an alliance. In the books it was Alys and a Thenn, could be here we have Tormunds daughter and maybe the young Lord from the end of the season, can’t remember his name (Lyanna shamed him in the scene, mentioning how his father was skinned alive).
Could be Alys thought…but this girls a red head, but wouldn’t be the first time they’ve changed hair colors. Karstark could of escaped the battle, returned home to Karhold and kicked out the siblings and taken the castle himself. Then the kids run to Winterfell. Or she could she just be a Wildling fighter? Or maybe the shows version of Val.
Carries a sword, redhead. Yep, Jon is getting some love and she fits the bill perfectly. 😀
Maybe being forced to marry. You know, KITN needs a wife. but in all honesty Alys wasn’t redhead in the books. Maybe it is different version of Alys Karstark or completely new character.
Sansa decides to say fuck it and learns water dancing with the sword.
Although she doesn’t look like the book Karstark, it is probably more important that she looks more like the show version of Lord Karstark, even though she does look too old to be his daughter.
Alys Karstark is a ‘grey girl’, she looks like a Stark.
That detail was only relevant in the books for a plotline that the show isn’t going to do, so she can look however the show wants her to look (they aren’t particularly sticklers for physical appearance, particularly for minor parts).
These things can be gleaned from her look, from the casting description that blatantly relates to her and from a basic grasp of reality.
Seems unlikely that it will be Jon’s wife… For starters, she was seen sayign goodbye to Kit, *presumably* because she is in her one high stakes scene (singular) and done with the show. Jon’s wife would likely need to be around for awhile.
Also, it seems to me that strategically, Jon is not going to marry simply to unite the North. He has sansa, and two houses (Umber & Karstark) that he can deploy new liege lords to. Given what we know about his parentage and his claim to the throne, I feel like the show will keep him single until he finds that information out to set up the Dany marriage. If she is a show-Alys version, Jon was very concerned with marrying her to tie the wildlings into the North, so I think there’s a better case for Tormund than Jon himself.
Oh you mean like House Glover who abandoned all the Starks to die, but now is Jons BFF. This is just a wrong assumption.
If she and the young northern boy are part of a “high stakes” scene with the main actors, I wonder if it’s some alliance between the Starks and another Northern House, where Jon perhaps has to offer to marry the girl?
However, after that battle where the Karstarks and Umbers were basically wiped from the face of the earth by the Vale army, and considering all of the northern houses who have united with Jon and Sansa already, would the Karstarks really have many chips to play here as far as having any power over the discussions or enough men to trade their support with? Couldn’t Jon just say “join us in the wars to come or join the army of the dead when they come knocking at your door. k thks.”?
lol, true enough. But could still be Tormund daughter. Also why can’t Wildlings start dressing like Northerners? And nothing has been confirmed that she is casted for the part of the “16 year old northern girl” right? Hell, everyone thought just because she was a ginger that it was Sansa’s body double.
Couldn’t the same be said with her dress? Can’t jump to 100% final conclusions. One way for the Wildlings to start becoming part of the North would be to adapt to their clothes.
Also, it seems to me that strategically, Jon is not going to marry simply to unite the North.He has sansa, and two houses (Umber & Karstark) that he can deploy new liege lords to. Given what we know about his parentage and his claim to the throne, I feel like the show will keep him single until he finds that information out to set up the Dany marriage. If she is a show-Alys version, Jon was very concerned with marrying her to tie the wildlings into the North, so I think there’s a better case for Tormund than Jon himself.
I put smile just behind that part meaning I am just joking. She is that girl in one or two scenes. Possibly Alys Karstark or one of Umbers. Maybe even Manderly’s daughter. Bettting more on Karstark or Umber.
First of all claim to Iron Throne means nothing because person who will take the throne, will do it by conquest. Jon claim is lesser than Dany’s and even if by some miracle Rhaegar married Laanna (unlikely), he has no intentions to purse it given threat Beyond the Wall.
We don’t know where or when will Jon find out about his parentage, If he does, you really think he’ll go to Dany and set up marriage or he’ll even want to? Given his moral standards that would be something to put him off this idea. Dany does not need any marriage. She is strong enough and has enough support. It almost got that disney feeling, throw into it what some people want them to fall in love. I can see them doing it but not supporting it or to think it’s needed.
House Glover didnt hold Rickon Stark hostage..House Glover didnt give Rickon Stark to Ramsay. House Glover did charge onto battle against House Stark EVEN THOUGH House Bolton helped them regain their castle….. Just like the manderlys and 90% of the North they just stayed away from that fight.
House Umber, gave up the HEIR TO WINTERFELL to be killed, when they were known to be the most loyal banner of house stark and thats why bran sent Rickon to Last Hearth. Rickons death could jeopardize House Starks future. You think if Ned Stark was alive hewould allow House Umber to rule Last Hearth if they rebelled again the starks nad got one his sons killed??? No!
Alys Karstark was Rickard Karstark’s daughter, so if this was some version of Alys, Harald Karstark would be her brother.
I’m guessing she’s either Alys Karstark or some other Northern lady and her looking like Ygritte/Sansa is relevant for some storyline on the show.
Is it possible it could be one of Karsi’s daughters that got on the boat before the massacre at Hardhomme? Or were those two girls too young to be 16 now?
He’s been working on this for a while. Glad it’s getting made.
Didn’t know marrying one’s aunt is disney lmao
Aside from similar hair colour, this girl looks nothing like Sansa, either in face or figure.
The boy could be her brother, and I’m also betting on a middle of the night scene. It doesn’t sound like they’ll be around for longer than that.
Cool.Good for GOT actors working other on projects on the side. Hopefully it won’t be years before it gets made. Didn’t know he has a production company, seems like most actors do nowadays.
I don’t think it’s a middle of the night scene. Based on the fact that Kit, Gwendoline and Portman were wearing cooling tubes, it seems they will be in their armour for the scene. They were photographed either before they had put on their costumes or after being done for the day.
I have a hunch that Lord Karstark will return.
I thought I recognized this girl from somewhere, but with those limited IMDB entries I’m thinking I must have mistaken her for someone that looks very similar. and no, not Sophie – not much resemblance there
Alys makes sense or another noble girl from one of the northern houses. Will the Alys story be “high stakes” in the books or enough so to make it such for the show at this point? Jon will probably spend most of the season attempting to unite all of the houses/people against the NK, so if this girl is the new Lady of one of those that hasn’t joined him it would make sense.
She is Wylla Manderly that looks like a merman engraved on her belt. The boy is prolly the Kastark heir, but could be anyone in the North or even from the Riverlands (Blackwood?). I think the Umbers are gone, Tormund will be the new lord of Last Hearth.
If the boy is the Umber heir (or any other relevant member of House Umber), another possibility would be to have him become a ward/hostage to House Stark and live in Winterfell like Theon did.
I don’t understand people who say this new actress Megan Parkinson looks like Sansa. The hair colour is similar though not the same (Sansa’s hair is a darker, deeper auburn colour), that’s about all. Sophie’s face is more of a heart shape, Megan’s face is more square and the eyes and mouth are quite different, too. Also, judging by the pictures with Kit, Megan is nowhere as tall as Sophie. (Sophie is taller than Kit, I believe.)
Main heroes and if they fall in love even more so. Which many fans seems to think so. Classic route, much like hidden prince trope.
As to who Megan Parkinson could be playing… She could fill a similar role Alys Karstark does in the books, i.e. a young northern noblewoman marrying a wildling leader to cement alliances.
Tormund’s really the only wildling leader viewers of the show know and care about… But…But… What about Tormienne! 😀 Isn’t Tormund supposed to be wildly in love with Brienne? 😀 (I really liked the brief Tormund/Brienne bits, most of all because it showed to Brienne that men
desire her, a nice boost for her self-confidence – Tormund essentially filled book!Ser Hyle Hunt’s function, though there are differences. However, it was one-sided, Brienne only loves one man, Jaime.)
SmallJon did that. And he got what was coming to him. His children shouldn’t be punished for it.
I tried to take a closer look at the belt piece earlier but it’s not clear what it is. It sort of just looks like curlicues, decorative bits, and not an exact sigil to me. But I also don’t have the best eyes so other people can take a look.
Under normal circumstances the Starks would probably remove the Umbers and Karstarks from power and crush them militarily if necessary.
But Jon doesn’t need any more conflict right now. He needs the North to unite as quick and easily as possible, and he doesn’t need more men dying trying to root the Umbers and Karstarks out of their castles.
So he will seek a compromise that will re-establish their oaths and offer them an opportunity to prove their loyalty to House Stark once more.
House Bolton is the only House that they’ll wipe off the map completely.
Why does Dany not need a marriage? IF she took the Iron Throne and is barren then what happens when she dies? And if she took the Iron Throne and is not barren and has kids, then they are bastards. What happens when she dies? If she legitimizes them, all she does is set the path forward for another round of Blackfyre style rebellions. What a legacy to leave behind. And the North? It’s an independent Kingdom now. Is she going to be okay with the largest chunk of land in Westeros not under her control?
Disney or not, I won’t ignore what has been set up from almost the beginning of the story. It doesn’t need to be a love story. They don’t even need to like each other. But it’s going to happen.
she doesn’t look like sansa at all….despite the red hair…she is not tall,have brown eyes and a long face…her outfit also implied that she wield a sword…
Never for a second thought of her being Sansa’s body double – this post is the nail in the coffin.
By the way, her twitter is @megz8roze. She’s surprisingly quite.. obscure!
Are they not filming any southern/KL stuff yet? Nikolaj just posted on IG and he’s in Denmark and I haven’t seen any photos of Lena yet.
Stark Loyalist: House Umber, gave up the HEIR TO WINTERFELL to be killed, when they were known to be the most loyal banner of house stark and thats why bran sent Rickon to Last Hearth.
OMG just think how Bran is going to feel once he hears the news about Rickon and Osha. Osha adored Bran and he knew it, and he basically sent her and Rickon to their deaths. Of course, he had no way of knowing that Smalljon would turn out to be a traitorous p.o.s. but he will feel horrible just the same.
About the new redhead – I would have originally said she was a peasant girl defying some army foraging around for food, thus the “high stakes” part of the casting call, but her being outfitted with a sword might change things a bit. I don’t know how many peasant girls would have access to swords, or be able to keep their hair in any decent shape, especially those long red locks she has. So maybe she is a female member of one of the higher houses. I would expect that if she is a highborn northern girl, her family is impoverished by the ongoing wars and grieving at the loss of their men. With most of the men gone from these families, the girls would have to take on the part of defending the family from poachers and such. (which will make Arya much more acceptable to some of the more snobbish ladies) So, my vote is somebody high-born, but the family is having a bad time of it.
Yes, Tormienne! I think it would be perfect, if Jon could marry Brienne to Tormund and then send them to Tarth on the honneymoon combined with the WW awareness raising campaign. Jokes aside, Brienne’s father has a good reputation among the lords of Westeros, and if Brienne could persuade him that the WW threat is real, he could turn into a valuable ally for Jon. So, IMO, Jon will be shipping Tormienne himself and I hope that Brienne will get over her silly crush on Jamie as easy as she got over her silly crush on Renley. As for the ginger gal with a sword, of cause she may end up marrying some other wildling, but her primary role won’t be related to forging alliences. IMO, she will be bringing a message on some kind of a new threat: the fact that she carries a sword implies that she has just been under attack – girls don’t carry swords for ceremonial purposes even in the North, even Lyanna Mormont was going around unarmed. Therefore, it’s logical to assume that the girl and the boy were under some kind of attack they escaped (probably with the help of Brienne and Pod as their presence in the scene implies), and now they come to Jon to ask for aid, which cause him some frustrations.
However, the most intriguing question in such scenario would be the identity of the supposed attacker. It could be either Cersey (from the land) or Euron (from the sea). My bet would be on Euron: he may organize a raid on the North to create an impression that he is planning a full scale invasion and to mask his true goals.
I wouldn’t overanalyze it. They’ve both been in Belfast plenty. KL shoots a lot inside on the set where people wouldn’t see them.
A part of me hoped she would be playing the younger version of Catelyn and the 10yo blue eyes boy littleLittlefinger
Yes, I think you are absolutely right. There is no way that this is a coincidence. This show even changed the name of Asha (Yara) because we might get it confused with Osha. The show has so many options to make this character look a certain way. In fact, the publicity photo doesn’t indicate Sansa to me at all. However, her photo on set yells Sansa to me. They definitely made her look like Sansa. I wonder why????This should be interesting.
Yet R+L=J still happened despite how trope-y people think it is. George isn’t as edgy as fans like to think. He has worked with plenty of tropes in the books and on the show. Jon and Dany have had parallel journeys and a marriage would make perfect sense both politically and from a storytelling perspective.
Megan Parkinson does not seem to be a natural redhead. Brown eyelashes and brown roots. They made her a redhead for a reason.
Any potential attack Euron makes on the North would be along the stony shore, which is the opposite side of Westeros from KL/ Dany’s most likely potential landing sites. And given that he’s supposedly allied with Cersei in S7 and he’s been focussed on Dany last season, I can’t see him making that move. Also, Brienne and Pod wouldn’t pass that way between Riverrun and Winterfell.
Except The Man of the Year Award for Hitler, that was pretty on point. 😛
Her hair was that color before she joined the show.
This is so exciting! Another cool Northern gal! I loved Lyanna M. so maybe this girl will be awesome too 🙂
I don’t think allowing the merger of the Karstarks and Umbers into one mega-house would be wise political move for the Starks. (assuming this girl is the head of her house)
One thought I’ve had is that perhaps Jon agrees to marry the girl, but then is confronted with a more politically advantageous offer and is put in a similar spot to Robb, having to choose between political gain and personal familiarity/attraction.
If Megan’s character doesn’t fill the books’ Alys Karstark function (marry a wildling leader, and in the books, also prevent a house allying with the Boltons, but that’s irrelevant in the show now), she could still be someone with a potential for alliances.
Sam’s lovely mum, in that awkward Tarly family dinner scene, mentioned that Lord Umber has let her daughters be trained in hunting (possibly even fighting?), and this actress was being fitted with a sword belt and possibly also a sword in those pictures. Youngjoan Umber? Bringing the Umbers back into the Stark/KitN fold?
And, as several commentators have said, Jon Snow has suddenly become
to northern houses that acknowledge his kingship. No longer bound by NW vows, and a King, no less! I don’t think Jon’s going to rush into marriage, the WW threat takes all priority for him, but can’t blame northern lords for trying to put forward their nubile daughters… There’s even potential for conflict there, if a northern lord feels Jon snubs his daughter (=him). I don’t think the show will go down that path but it’s a possibility.
A redhead wielding weapons… So, not your typical Westerosi young lady… Hmm… Just Jon’s type…
In the bigger picture, the show had Dany dump Daario because she might need to be free to marry someone for an alliance in Westeros. Let’s see who’s there (only major houses which can bring substantial lands and/or troops count, so no love match with some lovely and gallant “Ser Ronald of Sunnybridge” type)
Dorne – Ellaria and the Sand Snecks killed the prince and his heir, the young, eligible Prince of Dorne, and took power, so no marriage prospects there.
The Reach – the Tyrells equal old Lady Olenna and maybe some distant cousins. Lord Randyll Tarly, however, has a young, eligible son in Dickon Tarly, even if he’s a bit of a dick. But he is Sam’s brother, so maybe not all bad…
Stormlands – no idea. The Baratheons are gone and I have no idea who holds the Stormlands now. Probably Cersei, nominally, but I doubt their allegiance is very strong. Dany could appoint some Stormlord the new Lord Paramount, I guess, and marry him – but not going to happen in the show because we don’t know any Stormlords and there’s absolutely no foreshadowing for this.
Westerlands – Jaime Lannister… erm. No. He killed her dad. And in Dany’s reign, Casterly Rock goes to Tyrion, anyway.
The Iron Islands – Dany is already allied with Asha and Theon, so no marriage with Euron.
Riverlands – Edmure is married and the Freys might be in some disarray, involved in internal fighting, and most senior Freys are married anyway. So, no Riverlands alliance.
The Vale – Lord Robin Arryn. He’s a bit young, but for a political marriage… But even Dany would be a bit eww… (She likes strong warrior types.)
The North – Jon Snow. King in the North, former LC of the Night’s Watch. Officially a rebel against the Seven Kingdoms as per his title, obsessed with a threat from beyond the Wall.
So, Dany’s choices are maybe Dickon Tarly, Robin Arryn or Jon Snow. Or a total wildcard from the Stormlands, but that’s unlikely to happen in the show. Would she marry before the wars or promise to marry after the wars? (Jon Snow, KitN, faces the same dilemma.)
Will Jon’s parentage become known, and if so, to whom and when? and will anybody believe it and how will it affect potential marriage prospects?
to have family (proved by some dragon bonding?) and wouldn’t mind marrying a nephew, but Jon Snow (Stark/Targaryen) might be more conflicted about that. But he’ll do whatever it takes to fight the WW and save humankind, even promise to semi-incestuosly marry Dany for the dragons and troops. He’s desperate. Dany has no idea how desperate.
Anyway, I don’t think both Jon and Dany will survive the ultimate war, so them promising to, or actually marrying doesn’t matter. When it’s all over, they’re both dead, or maybe one of them surviving. So, even if they did get married somewhere along the line during the war, it wouldn’t matter for the post-end game. (Unless there was a baby, but that’s such a long shot I’m not counting on it.)
Sorry for stupidly long post. I should learn to be less verbouse.
But Jon doesn’t need any more conflict right now. He needs the North to unite as quick and easily as possible, and he doesn’t need more men dying trying to root the Umbers and Karstarks out of their castles.
House Bolton is the only House that they’ll wipe off the map completely.
I agree. But at the same time both houses have no armies and both houses will always be known has traitors in the north. Its not like they hold a massive army that Jon needs help with.
For hundreds of years the north has been independent with a king in the north as their leader. Until the Targaryen Conquest, they never bent the knee. This is what I remember from the books but I guess I could read it again. Historically the north is almost impossible to hold due to the fact that it’s about 1000 miles away from everything else and the people in the south can’t handle the cold the way northerners can. Stannis’s defeat is recent proof of that. The only reason the 7 kingdoms stayed together after Robert’ rebellion or ( the usurper) is due to the family/friend relationship between Robert and Ned. Ned is the reason that the south was able to hold the north. Even before the fall of the Targaryens certain families were banding together and they were arranging marriages within their houses. That is why Prince Rhaegar paid for the tournament at Harrenhal, so he can unite with the northern houses and overthrow his crazy father. I think theoretically speaking, if Dany held Kings Landing then maybe Jon (as her nephew) could hold the north and we could see something similar to what Ned and Robert had. But I also don’t think that will happen since George stated that fire is Dany and ice is the white walkers. George’s words, not mine. This is Dany’s purpose. So the face off in this magical world is between those two forces of nature, fire and ice. The other set up from the very beginning has been Bran’s story. I know he is paralyzed and he’s not this exceptional warrior like Jon is, but he’s not even completely human anymore in this fictional world. He is meant to face the night king. George might be planning something that isn’t so obvious or even as popular as what we might hope will happen. That is why I love to speculate and not get locked on one theory. As far as the young girl, it could be possible that a marriage between a northern house and the free folk could unify the north even more. I know that what I am writing isn’t based on tons of research on the books and note taking to prove a theory but I like to believe that GRRM will continue to throw us off in unexpected ways.
I think we all need to move away from this marriage obsession. Neither Jon nor Dany need any form of marriage to strengthen their forces and the impending icemageddon will bring their combined forces together, rather than a wedding. There’s just no time for this. Besides which- there’s no way Jon will agree to marry his aunt (or his cousin). Period.
I do not think she is Wylla Manderley. Lyanna Mormont’s speech in S6Ep10 served a similar purpose to Wylla’s speech in the book. I could not see a distinctive design on the belt but will check later and compare to sigils.
talvikorppi: Sorry for stupidly long post. I should learn to be less verbouse.
Oh honey, in the realm of stupidly long posts this one is left at the gate. Just wait until Winter, (ha) after filming, when things really get slow and the tiniest tidbit is leaked for us chew on, a tidbit that might open the door to comment about plot lines, (usually about Sansa) and you will see some stupidly long posts, mine among them. At least you maintained your thread of thought and made good points. And yours might have been long but it wasn’t “stupid” … so, no worries, carry on and stick around the whole off season. We’ll need you 😉
I doubt that they’ve been left with no fighting men at all.
The Umbers, for example, wouldn’t have left the Last Hearth totally undefended considering that the reason they chose to ally with the Boltons was because of the threat they felt the Wildlings posed.
I think both Houses will still have more than the Mormonts’ 62 men to pledge to Jon’s cause. Even if they’ve only got a few hundred men left between them, that’s still the sort of number Jon would appreciate in his army at this time and which would be a nuisance if the Starks were forced to subdue them by force.
Anyway, the sooner Jon brings these Houses back into the fold the sooner he will be able to order evacuations or defences of the various lands and castles of the North when the White Walkers breach the Wall.
Be it fighting age men, women or children, all of these Houses’ subjects are potential soldiers in the army of the dead.
The less time spent trying to re-establish their fealty to the Starks the better for planning the North’s defences and potential evacuation plans.
You are right: Euron’s attacks should be expected along the stony shore, which is the opposite side of Westeros from Dany’s potential landing sites. However, what about the Neck and Moat Cailin? It’s pretty close to the Iron Islans, it has a strategic importance as the gateway to the North and the Ironborn held it in S2-4 which implies that Moat Cailin is accessible from the western coast. Moreover, if the attack happens early in the season (Ep1-2), Euron will still have “time” to sail around Westeros till Ep4 (or later), when we expect him to attack Dany’s fleet. Varys went from Dorne to Meereen in one episode, right? And there may be more plot twists involving Moat Cailin. First of all, I would like to know how Littlefinger past through it with the army of the Vale? Could that be related to his friends in the North he mentioned in “The Book of the Stranger”? Of cause, the showrunners may simply leave these questions unanswered, but it would be fine to have the loose threds tied or rather wooven into a new plot.
Her hair us auburn, like a young Catelyn, kid is probably young Littlefinger. Saw this on Because Geek.
Several years ago Harignton said in an interview that he was interested in producing. So, good to know he pursued his interest. Hopefully it gets done quickly. Sounds interesting…
Because Geek posted an interesting theory on Youtube about Megan and the young blue-eyed boy: they could be young Cat and young Littlefinger. It could make sense. LF will most probably play an important role in the next season. Flashbacks are likely to explain his motivations further ; also, we have yet to meet Brandon Stark. Therefore, we will probably be introduced to young Cat, young Lysa and young LF at some point. But I had not noticed the belt Megan was wearing… I do not imagin young Cat with a sword. So, we’ll see…
Not sure what you’re getting at. She has the same color in all those photos.
Those actors were filming with several main cast members, which we know both from the casting notice and because they were literally photographed together. They are not flashback characters. I’m frankly baffled that possibility keeps coming up.
Even setting all that aside, I really don’t see what people think flashbacks of them would add. Littlefinger’s plans are mysterious; his motives are not. He wanted to marry Catelyn, and didn’t get what he wanted, and his crushed dream curdled into villainy.
You are right: Euron’s attacks should be expected along the stony shore, which is the opposite side of Westeros from Dany’s potential landing sites. However, what about the Neck and Moat Cailin? It’s pretty close to the Iron Islans, it has a strategic importance as the gateway to the North and the Ironborn held it in S2-4 which implies that Moat Cailin is accessible from the western coast. Moreover, if the attack happens early in the season (Ep1-2), Euron will still have “time” to sail around Westeros till Ep4 (or later), when we expect him to attack Dany’s fleet. Varys went from Dorne to Meereen in one episode, right?
And there may be more plot twists involving Moat Cailin. First of all, I would like to know how Littlefinger past through it with the army of the Vale? Could that be related to his friends in the North he mentioned in “The Book of the Stranger”? Of cause, the showrunners may simply leave these questions unanswered, but it would be fine to have the loose threds tied or rather wooven into a new plot.
I was about to say that Moat Cailin is only accessible from the east (and Yara’s apparent teleportation there has bugged me for so long), but on looking at another Westeros Map it does indeed appear to be accessible from the West coast… so you could have a point. And I’m glad I can put that annoyance to rest so thanks 😉
not out of the realm of possibility. They have to be as secretive as they can be!
They were photographed together exiting a make-up truck. So, they were filming at the same moment, yes. It does not mean that they were filming together. I guess multiple opinions are authorized on this forum, no? Baffling or not.
They were photographed together exiting a make-up truck. So, theywere filming at the same moment, yes. It does not mean that they were filming together.
As I also noted, the casting notice for those two roles specified that they would be in a scene with “leading cast members”, rather like the several leading cast members they were photographed with. There’s no indication Isaac was there (if he would even count as “cast members” plural).
could it be in Arya in some trippy return to Winterfell, tricking Jon, Davos and Brienne into thinking she is Sansa and then Bran (young northern boy casting call)?? The sword obviously isn’t needle, lots of ways to disprove this theory but it would make the Sophie resemblance make some sense
I think if they still wanted to keep the Umbers, they could simply do it like this. SmallerJon was good friends with Rickon and got pissed when SmallJon betrayed him. Jon wouldn’t exile a boy of 10.
Inga, I really like your wild speculations and enjoy reading them though I seldom agree.
Take this “Tormienne” thing. There’s NO way it leads into anything. Tormund might’ve crushed on her immediately – she’s what wildlings like in a woman: tall and strong and wielding weapons – but Brienne is a southron lady, she values courtesies and chivalry and oaths and kneeling. Tormund has no idea. He’s not a bad man, I actually love him, HAR! But he and Brienne will never be, because she loves another.
She loves another who shares her high ideals of knighthood. Even if he hasn’t been able to fulfill those ideals. Brienne’s and Jaime’s connection is so spiritual it’s off the scale. Tormund is lovely but he’d never understand her and all her vows and oaths and why they matter to her. Tormund’s not a kneeler. He’s an honourable and honest man but he’d never understand the southron chivalric code Brienne lives by.
HAR! Brienne and Jaime! In the books it’s more obvious but the show might
Your post was just OK for me: keep writing. And I do share your thoughts. I think that Dany will be choosing between Jon and Dickon, and though Jon looks definitely better, rejecting Dickon may backfire: his dad may take it as an insult and turn to Cersei. As for Jon and Dany, I also thing that their marriage will be either uncomfortable or short-lived (or both). The problem is that Dany is turning colder and colder towards all the potential suitors. She treated Hizdahr like shit (poor guy), she treated Daario even worse, I feel like she is going to treat Jon the same way (at least in the beginning), and then we’ll see whether Jon will be able to tame the dragon.
Wonder if she could be a Mallister – sigil on belt looks a bit like a high flying bird to me…
….In fact, the publicity photo doesn’t indicate Sansa to me at all. However, her photo on set yells Sansa to me. They definitely made her look like Sansa. I wonder why????This should be interesting.
a publicity photo. It was a pap shot. Nothing to do with HBO or any of the production companies involved with GoT.
Also, I don’t think Megan Parkinson looks anything like Sophie Turner. But please carry on.
The photos of her on set do have the Sansa look. I obviously am not the only one to think so considering she was first mistaken as Sophie, and then as her double. I think the camera shots of her in costume from behind (with the braided hair) are pretty identical to Sansa. Certainly she isn’t exactly like Sansa, but very close. I think too close to be a coincidence. My apologies for calling the picture that is posted on this site (above- her portrait ) a publicity photo. I was just trying to reference the picture above.
At first I thought she looked a bit like the actress/extra who played Jeyne Poole in season one, minus the hair color ofcourse. But they completely sidestepped the Jeyne Poole masquerade storyline on the show so I doubt it will be brought up now. But I agree with some of the commenters here that the resemblance in her appearance with that of Sansa’s is probably not a coincidence.
So does this mean Sansa won’t be in the scene, although everybody else seems to be? I think she wasn’t seen there and the body double thingy is out of the way now too. Any thoughts where she might be?
Beth Cassel would sort of fit that role, she’s believed to still be a prisoner at the Dreadfort in the books, and I can’t imagine she’s been treated gently. And coincidentally the character is a redhead who’s around the same age as Arya who is 17 in the show. But yeah she could be someone not from the books…
There are new pictures posted on the guy’s twitter account
We finally have a pirture of Tormund and one of the Maester who worked for the Boltons on season 6 (I don’t remember his name)
Inga: As for Jon and Dany, I also thing that their marriage will be either uncomfortable or short-lived (or both). The problem is that Dany is turning colder and colder towards all the potential suitors. She treated Hizdahr like shit (poor guy), she treated Daario even worse, I feel like she is going to treat Jon the same way (at least in the beginning), and then we’ll see whether Jon will be able to tame the dragon.
Understanding that people are split on how these two will interact in the remaining story, IF there is a marriage or romantic relationship between Jon and Daenerys I don’t know that we’ll see (most of ) it in the show. I could see the kindling being lit and that inevitable result being alluded to, but the ‘ever after’ being left to our imagination similar to Aragorn and Arwen at the end of
. Dany has yet to choose anyone due to love so I don’t think we can compare her attitude toward one that she might. She grew to love Drogo but was forced into that relationship. Hizdahr was simply a political pairing and Daario was more of a ‘partner’ than a permanent companion.
Of course, some believe one or both are definitely going to die before then end so I guess then it wouldn’t really matter. 😛
Could it be a girl that Jon falls for? Red hair like his last GF? Just a thought.
Jon getting with someone who looks that much like Sansa would be creepy af. Not just the hair but she resembles her features.
Like that’s even creepier than getting with Sansa herself, which would be creepy, because at least then he isn’t projecting his weird fantasies on someone else.
I feel like there won’t be any time for romance, I feel like any unions will strictly be political.
Well, Tormund could learn some courtesy – I can even imagine him asking Jon for an advise (that would be hilarious)! But on a serious note, I think that when Brienne said that she loved Jamie as a brother, she was closer to the truth than she thought. Let’s be frank: she is extremely vulnerable and every man who shows her kindness appears to her as a knight in shining armour. That was the case with Renley, that was the case with Jaime, and now she loves them both. Of cause, her relationship with Jaime is deeper, because she kind of feels that he needs her and her belief that he can be a better man. And that’s a really admirable relationship, that can really drag Jaime out of Cersei’s claws. But that’s not love – not that type of love. For Jaime Brienne is an absolute moral authority, a substitute of a mother or an elder sister, and reducing her to a subject of sexual interest would be simply vulgar (at least for me, but I think the showrunners share that oppinion based on the dialog between Bronn and Pod).
So, summing up I think that Brienne’s love to Jaime is really sacred and should stay in heaven, but if she wants to be happy in this world, she should turn her eyes on someone more earthy, like Tormund. And I want her to be happy. Really. Life is short, especially in GoT. And if she loses that chance of happiness she has, she will be a fool undeserving any sympathy whatsoever.
Well from a distance she resembles Sophie could we have a playon the Davos head scene where LF tries to play Cersei?
Right now I lean for a Ally Karstark version in the show.
I’m so happy the maester is back lmao. He had such a terrible time working for Ramsay. I felt bad for him.
I’m so happy the maester is back lmao. He had such a terrible time working for Ramsay. I felt bad for him.
Yeah, he’ll have a much better time in service to Jon. Presence of a maester is also interesting given a theory I have regarding Sam (that the 610 scene where he arrives at the Citadel and they pointedly have no knowledge of the change of leadership at Castle Black sets up Sam finding out what happens to Jon in 610 before he finds out what happens to Jon in 510).
She has similar colouring to Paul Rattray who played Harald Karstark last season. Maybe we’ll find out what happened to Lord Karstark. He disappeared.
Yes, I would like to have Dany meeting Jon in the last episode of the series, so the further development of their relations could be left for the imagination of the viewers. Or at least something similar to the ending of the Gone with the Wind. Killing one of them or both would be too final and a bit melodramatic IMO.
Interesting photos. Now it looks like Littlefinger is having a scene with the maester, whereas Jon, Davos, Brienne, Pod, Lord Glover, and the ginger gal with the sword (and the boy) are involved in another. Tormund should be in it too, I guess. So, basically it’s KITN with his Small Council + two new characters + Brienne and Pod who might be their escort. But where is Sansa? Is she being allienated or allienating hersef from decision making? Looks like that, but why? Can she be sick or… pregnant? (NO, please D&D, not that!) But anyway she may have some health problems that would keep her in her chamber and also explain the presence of the maester and Littlefinger having a private talk scene with him.
The girl is of House Karstark. Perhaps Alys. If the sword’s pommel is any indication
Like that’s even creepier than getting with Sansa herself, which would be creepy, because at least then he isn’t projecting his weird fantasies on someone else.
Megan Parkinson and Sophie Turner look nothing alike. One’s got a square jaw, the other a heart-shaped face, not to mention different eyes and mouths. The only resemblance is long red hair (which Sophie dyes for the role, she’s a natural blonde). By your reasoning, I could look like Sophie Turner/Sansa if I dyed my long blond hair red. I wish. 😀
But if you want to feel creepy at an imaginary thing, go right ahead.
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