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The trouble with “big”—Why I’m nervous about Game of Thrones Season 6

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It was called How Game of Thrones' commitment to bigness could sink it
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Season 6. I want to make that clear up front. I’m a fan, I own the seasons on DVD, I’ve read the 
novels multiple times, and I love playing in this world that George R.R. Martin has created and HBO has brought to the screen. Come rain or come shine, I’ll be there.
But that doesn’t mean I don’t have concerns. Along with many other fans, I saw
some cracks forming in the show’s foundations during Season 5. In the words of the 
Spencer Kornhaber, “I think you see more kind of typical TV writing in these later seasons, and you see more coincidences happening that you wouldn’t see in the earlier seasons.”
This concern is borne out when you look closely at the season, which features more than a few plot points that stretch credulity. For example, consider how Brienne of Tarth just happens upon both Arya and Sansa Stark during her wanderings around Westeros, or how Ramsay Bolton sneaks into Stannis’ camp with his “20 good men” and manages to burn a lot of supplies before anybody even knows he’s there. Ultimately, these are just details, and it’s possible for fans to argue their way around them. But if the writing were truly airtight, no argument would be needed—the plot should explain itself.
Kornhaber made his comments during a roundtable discussion with Amy Sullivan, another writer for 
 Rachel Martin. They discussed George R.R. Martin’s recent announcement that 
, the next volume in his series, wouldn’t be out ahead of Season 6, and wondered what that meant for the show going forward.
One of Sullivan’s comments gets to the heart of the problem the showrunners face as they break with the source material. “I think there will also be more of a temptation for them to create storylines in response to people that the audience likes as characters and people that they like as actors,” she said. “When there’s a character who’s not slated to die and yet isn’t really part of the action, on the shows, they have tended to create a new storyline just to keep those characters around.”
This happened a lot in Season 5. Look at Sansa, who traveled to Winterfell and married Ramsay Bolton. Sansa doesn’t do this in the books, but the producers wanted to keep the character at the center of the action, so they changed things. “We really wanted Sansa to play a major part this season,” showrunner David Benioff said of the decision. “If we were going to stay absolutely faithful to the book, it was going to be very hard to do that.
By the same token, Bronn headed down to Dorne with Jaime Lannister. Neither of these characters do this in the books. Bronn, in fact, is never seen again after he leaves King’s Landing ahead of Tyrion’s trial by combat, but the producers brought him back, presumably because they knew he was a fan favorite character.
It’s easy to understand the thought process behind these choices. Bronn was a popular character—the producers probably figured that the audience would want to see more of him and devised a way for him to return. Likewise, Sophie Turner is a talented actress, so why not give her a meaty plot to chew on? The problem, I think, is motive. When the producers make decisions based on who they’d like to work with and what they think the audience will respond to, they run the risk of the finished product feeling contrived. And indeed, these two plots were among the most heavily criticized of the season.
would be somewhat immune to this. After all, it’s the most popular show in HBO’s history, which is saying something. It’s not the kind of show where the producers need to placate the audience—people are going to watch no matter what. With that in mind, I’d figure the showrunners would be free to make decisions based purely on what’s best for the story, even if that meant saying goodbye to fan favorites or letting prominent characters stay on the sidelines for a while.
My fear for Season 6, however, is that they’ll keep making decisions based on what they think the audience wants, rather than what the story needs. That brings me to a bunch of comments Emilia Clarke (Daenerys Targaryen) has made about the upcoming season.
: “It’s just go, go, go, go. Shocking moment to shocking moment. Epic moment to epic moment. It’s mental; it’s epic.”
: “We’re just going to hit the audience with every episode, coming up with something more mental that the last. I can’t believe some of the twists in store.”
Season 6 will have “the biggest moments on television that have ever existed.”
Clarke is making some pretty tall claims here. On the one hand, they give fans reasons to get excited. Who doesn’t want to watch television that’s “epic” and “mental” and “big?” On the other hand, after seeing the show stumble a bit in Season 5, I’m nervous those are polite ways of saying “loud” and “sensationalized” and “ungainly.” I’m afraid that the producers think the audience will respond to big, flashy moments and are determined to provide them at the expense of nuance and depth. I’m afraid that, in trying to give us the show they think we want, they’ll turn it into a show we no longer enjoy.
Look, for example, at “Mother’s Mercy,” the Season 5 finale. That episode was definitely big. Stannis Baratheon died in battle, Arya ripped a dude’s eyes out, Cersei took her walk of atonement, and Jon Snow was murdered by his own men. It was a huge hour of television, but in rushing from “shocking moment to shocking moment,” the script ignored the smaller beats that could have given weight to the larger ones.
This was particularly a problem for Stannis’ storyline. For example, we walked in on the aftermath of Selyse Baratheon’s suicide, but missed a moment that bridged the gap between her tearful breakdown in the previous episode and her death. The episode also provided little context for Melisandre’s hasty exit, and only a cursory explanation for why a large part of Stannis’ army abandoned him on the eve of battle.
“Big” turns into “too big” so easily…that’s the trouble with it. Hopefully, the producers have this under control. After all, it’s not like they haven’t excelled at big scenes before. Fans need look no further than the Massacre at Hardhome for an example of a scene that delivers both superficial thrills and intense drama. The Massacre at Hardhome is “epic” done right. As long as the showrunners let those scenes develop naturally rather than forcing them on us just to get a reaction, the future looks bright.
With any luck, my nerves are unfounded and the coming year will be exactly as thrilling as Clarke describes it (also, it should be noted that all these quotes come from Clarke, so she might just be given to hyperbole). I’m nervous, and I don’t think it’s absurd to be nervous, but I’m also very excited. I’m ready to take in the new season, and hope it’s exactly as big as it needs to be.
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“For example, consider how Brienne of Tarth just happens upon both Arya and Sansa Stark during her wanderings around Westeros”
Brienne was wandering a continent the size of Africa, on horseback, and managed to found the 3 person she wanted to find most.
This is what happened when they cut down the entire Brienne story from the books, and made their own.
And this is what will happen in S6+ with all storylines, given that they don’t have all chapters and will need to do with GRRM’s general directions, or do it all by themselves. This is gonna be bad.
The only such ‘coincidence’ that happens like that in the book was Samwell meeting with Arya, but it was such a small (and ultimately irrelevant) meeting that it’s easier to give it a pass. I mean, there’s thousands of named characters in asoiaf, of course some of them will meet at some point.
The other ‘coincidences’ in the books can all be explained. Coldhand and Samwell meet with Bran, but it’s no coincidence; they were sent there.
Catelyn meets with Tyrion, but when two people walk the same road, the odds they’ll stop at the same inn are reasonable. It’s not like Catelyn just went in some deserted land and found Tyrion who also wandered the deserted land for some reason ( i.e. when Brienne found Arya – before finding both Stannis and Sansa a few leagues from each others ).
But that’s just for the coincidence. I expect the show to, as they say, “jump the shark” at every opportunity, and give the average television fan what they want. A standard cookie cutter hero story with plot holes everywhere that viewers will dismiss as “don’t take it so seriously it was still a funny/great scene!” like they do in lot of other cheap/bad shows.
GoT was never the deep, complex story focused heavily on character development and politics that asoiaf was… It’d be too complex for the average viewer who watch the show while reading his texts/browsing on his mobile.
But we had some decent bits of it at times… (With no surprise, usually when a scene was adapted almost word-for-word with the book equivalent).
I know I will watch it anyway because I just couldn’t bear to wait for the books while everyone watch the show… But I don’t feel the hype like I did in the previous seasons.
I don’t feel like counting days, to know how long I have to wait before being frustrated at all the scenes like I was in many S5 scenes.
You seem like one of those people who are completely in love with the books and feel like you have to be overly critical of the show just because everyone else loves it. There are plenty of things in the show that are done way better than the books. I’m open to hear actual valid critisims about the show, but not when the come from people who are looking to shit on it just because its popular.
Funny how you state that you are open to valid criticism and then, instead of addressing any of his (very) valid points, resort to ad hominem.
This article made little sense to me. The show IS NOT THE BOOKS, and people need to get over that. Things that may have worked in the books may work a lot differently when translated to TV. So it kills me when people keep saying “this story line was different in the books…this never happened in the books….if they just stuck to the book storyline it would be better.” Do people not realize that GGRM contributes heavily to every major storyline that they end up doing in the show, so nothing happens without his blessing. I believe things will be “bigger” in this season due to the fact that the story as a whole is coming to a head and major developments naturally start to happen, not because “the fans want big things to happen”. I personally loved season 5 and thought that the only plot line they could’ve improved on was probably Dorne, but that being said I thought that season 5 never lacked in subtle scenes that give weight to situations. Btw conincidences happen all the time in every single season of the show! So saying that there were “too many coincidences in season 5” is not a fair critisism.
I don’t care anything anymore…give me more spoilers from the books please…i’ve waiting too much for the next book already and it’s still far far far away. And the DoS??? Ohh God…
So i’m ready for more spoilers like Stannis’s death, Barristan’s death, Myrcella’s death, Mance’s eventual death, Sansa is going to Winterfell with Petyr and the army of the Vale in the books. In the show Petyr will come in season 6 with Royce and their army. ;)
We don’t know if Barristans death in the show is a spoiler for the book, because we’ve already had that equivalent scene, and Barristans didn’t die. Maybe he does die in the book, but it has to be in a different manner. As for Stannis, he’s also alive still in the book because we haven’t had that battle between the Boltons and Stannis.
Actually on the books BS is last seen charging into the Yunkie so he may well be dead we just don’t know.
This sounds like some farewell monologue.
”We are too few to win this battle. We ride to make chaos.”
And there is no way that Stannis win, Jon will. In the show and in the books as well.
I think GOT made some great improvements to make the story work as a tv series. I just miss a certain character that has been discussed a lot and even there it depends on where the story goes in the book and series to make an opinion about that.
I thought season 5 was the best, I only wish the episodes weren’t limited in time. Wouldn’t it be great if they could decide the length of each episode themselves ?
I thought what they did in S5 with Sansa was terrific. The storyline seems to be making sense and at the same time they were able to keep one of the top billing actresses on the show throughout most of the season. The only reason most have an issue with it is due to the rape scene, which is understandable.
I suppose it would make sense story wise, but what doesn’t make sense is building her character up in S4 only to break her down to pieces in S5.
My main issue with Sansa’s storyline was not the rape scene (but partly yes traumatic as it is), but the Reverse Character Development: taking away the Dark Sansa look and undoing all the awesome things she’s become at the end of S4.
wandering the North completely out of her element, something which Arya has done, but not Sansa.
Mostly everyone else was broken at the end. Jon got stabbed, Arya blinded, Cersei shamed, Jaime failed his mission, Daeny nearly killed and then abducted by Dothraki. They all tried, but somehow failed in the end, and so did LF’s plan for Sansa.
Granted, expectations were high for her after S4, but it still makes sense storywise. I’m also one of those who suspect that the writers adapted material from Winter for Sansa’s storyline. Let’s keep in mind that she didn’t get a full arc like the others but is still stuck at the beginning of the whole Vale plot. In both media, she goes along with LF’s plans. The plan failing in the TV show might be a hint that marrying Harry will end badly.
On the other hand, I think in S6 we will most probably see some kind of a metaphorical rebirth (in some cases even literally, looking at you Jon Snow). I expect our protagonists to mostly be successful in their quests, just one last great hurrah before the Walker apocalypse…
Dan, I understand your concern. From the moment I read the comments made by Emilia Clarke, I posted on this website that I really wish she hadn’t said that. I feel like GoT is already hyped to the max and there’s just no reason to pile on and raise expectations even more than they already are. You mentioned “Hardhome” in your article and I think one of the reasons why it was so powerful and hit so hard is because no one saw it coming. And with that in mind, even though I understand the concerns about “the trouble with big”, I do think the show-runners now have a unique opportunity to present the story without having to worry about book purists complaining about why the TV show is not faithfully adapting GRRM’s story simply because there’s no source material to compare it against. In Season 6, when something “big” happens there will be no way to know if it is something that GRRM intended to happen or if it is something contrived by the show. And for a while at least, I think that will be a good thing for the fanbase at large.
One other thing. There’s a comment in your article about how certain scenes lack nuance and credibility or understanding of the how and why certain things happen. Sometimes that is a fair criticism and sometimes it is not. You used as an example: “For example, consider… how Ramsay Bolton sneaks into Stannis’ camp with his “20 good men” and manages to burn a lot of supplies before anybody even knows he’s there.” But I think you have to be careful in assuming that everything that isn’t fully explained lacks nuance or credibility. Because when I think about Ramsay’s raid of Stannis’ camp, I think we were not supposed to understand how Ramsay pulled it off because the event happened from the point of view of Stannis. Which is to say that “we” the viewers didn’t know exactly how it happened because Stannis didn’t know how it happened. I think we were also supposed to come to the conclusion that most of Stannis’ army abandoned him because they saw what he had become in his willingness to kill his own daughter. These things are not explained, they’re just implied. To me, that is nuance. The show intentionally does not explain everything. You’re supposed to think through everything and come to your own conclusions. I’ve always liked that about Game of Thrones and I think the show continues to do that.
Because when I think about Ramsay’s raid of Stannis’ camp, I think we were not supposed to understand how Ramsay pulled it off because the event happened from the point of view of Stannis. Which is to say that “we” the viewers didn’t know exactly how it happened because Stannis didn’t know how it happened.
Except we the viewers actually have an aerial shot of the camp going up in flames.
Do you honestly want everything explained to you, as to how it happened?
No, not everything. But I do want an explanation to how 21 men sneaked into a camp, found the location of all the food stores (which are usually heavily guarded, specially when they are running low), as well as rounded up all the horses, and found all the siege equipment, and set them all on fire (despite being all covered in snow… did they use kerosene?) simultaneously before anyone noticed them.
Are you asking for realism? May I remind you this is story that features dragons. What we know about Ramsey is that he likes to screw with people, hunt people and also to role pLay. In the books he plays the Reek persona while letting ReEk impersonate him. Perhaps they went into the camp in disguise. Yes all the fires going off at once is a bit dramatic but hey I’ll give them liscence here.
And may I remind you that realism is the #1 excuse that people use when defending the show’s use of rape?
You can’t defend one real thing because realism while also ignoring another real thing because dragons aren’t real.
Entering the camp in disguise doesn’t change the fact that it is no simple thing to set fire to things that are completely covered in snow.
Yeah, but, I think just because the scene in general is supposed to be from the point of view Stannis doesn’t mean we will only see the inside of Stannis’ tent just because Stannis is inside the tent. That’s being too literal and that’s not what I was trying to say. I believe the aerial shot was for us to see “what” was happening, not necessarily for us understand “how” it was happening.
We still have Davos’s after report telling us that they came in, destroyed all the food suplies, the siege weapons, and most of the horses all before anybody noticed them. Even if we’re really seeing it through Stannis and unable to understand how they did it because Stannis couldn’t understand how they did it, that should not stop you from taking a Doylist look at things and try to figure out how they did it. And you’re going to find yourself hardpressed to figure it out.
I also don’t need. To see Ramsey sneaking in because It’s not what the story is about. It’s about Stanis being frustrated and weakened.
I agree completely 👌🏾. You worded it better than i did when I commented lol.
Well said and agree whole-heartedly with you!
I agree. If also suggest the “the aftermath of Selyse Baratheon’s suicide” was highly nuanced anything else would gace been padding. Selyse was an evangelical red God worshiper who had her own brother burnt . She was burn happy. She also repeatedly communicated how much she despised her daughter. When however her daughter us given to the flames we see her faith is not what she projected and that she did care for her daughter. That moment of personal realization was all that was needed. She gave her only child over to a brutal fiery death and was finally forced to confront her inner most self. As soon as the guards called for Stanis in the next ep I knew she had killed herself. As it was the only course of action open to her.
Golladan I’m starting to see a pattern here. No offence, I’m sure you’re a lovely person. But why are you the one instigating these circular arguments?? You like that style of communication? I’m genuinely curious…
I was re-watching recently, and was blown away by Robert Baratheon’s scene with Jaime and Selmy where he talks about battle and killing. It was just great acting, writing…one of the best moments of GoT I think. Writing like this is why I fell in love with the story. I do feel like this kind of intensity is missing now. I don’t know if it has any relation to following the books, as I think the books also lost something as they went along. I think it’s just different than when it started. Maybe it’s because the CGI budget is bigger.
You are just reiterating what many fans, including myself, are somewhat worried about! Excited, most definitely!!!! A bit worried about whether it can uphold the “big” status, absolutely!! But never considered your thoughts about how some small, but important and meaningful plots may get overlooked for that ” big” storyline! I loved your article for making us think about that, Dan! I have not read the books, but agree with what you said about D&D making some characters arcs bigger to satisfy the fans! There will be many fans right there with you, sweating it out! Have to believe they will get it right! And if they slip a bit, Game of Thrones is still the best show on TV! Thanks for your insightful article!
Yeah man, even the “worst” season of GOT is still a Great f*cking season lol
The thing is like most adaptations, GoT isn’t book reader friendly. Never was, never will be, deal with it. I think the show is made for those of us who have not read the book and have absolutely no intention of doing so before the TV series is completely over. And for me, GoT is the best TV show ever, and I’m 51 y/o and I can tell you I keep as far away from those books as I can! I think that’s the best way to enjoy the HBO series…
Season 5 was a great disappointment to me for the reasons Dan mentioned plus more. The Stannis thread, in particular, troubled me with the plethora of rookie mistakes the ‘greatest military commander in Westeros’ made that even a non-military person such as myself saw all too obviously.
I’m not going to enumerate a full critique, especially from a smart phone. In short, I agree with Dan. Though, I did enjoy the base scenes with the hot sandsnake actress: schwing!!! Yeah, I’m weak.
I don’t think S5 overall was a disappointment. The first 4 episodes were good, 5-7 were not, and I think 8-10 were the best of the series in comparison to all other seasons’ 8-10 eps.
Good article, it’s something I worry about too. The show got famous for good writing leading to big shocks, now it feels like bad writing (and a few plot holes) leading to big shocks. Let’s just hope GoT has learned from the mistakes of season 5 and delivers a great season 6.
You may not like the writing, but I really don’t think there were any plot holes in season 5.
Jon and the wildings returning to Castle Black from Hardhome north of the Wall.
Mace sailing from King’s Landing to Braavos in the same time it took LF to ride from the Vale to Winterfell and then to King’s Landing. Or Tyrion to ride from Pentos to Volantis and then row on a boat from Volantis to the ruins of Valyria, and then walk from there to Meereen.
Just for the record, I’m not a big fan of Jon coming from north of the Wall either, but I would not call it a plot hole. Also, neither of those things have a crucial impact on the stories‘ outcome or contradict information that had prior been stated IIRC.
And actually the Mace travel one impacted the pacing of Arya’s story. Had he arrived at a more sensible time, Arya’s Meryn Trant climax would have occured much earlier in the season (though they could have just had Mace arrive earlier and Arya see them, but not taken action because she hadn’t learned stuff yet). And they couldn’t have had Mace depart later because that would mean he was in King’s Landing while the stuff with Loras and Marg would be taking place.
If you want more stuff that contradict earlier stuff.
Cersei was Queen Regent in season 4. She got demoted to Queen Mother in season 5 with no explanation. Though she kept acting as though she were regent.
And what was that deal with the characterisation swap between Jaime and Cersei in 5×02. Cersei bashing Jaime for not being a father to Myrcella, and Jaime warning her what would happen if he did. That’s the direct opposite of what happened at the end of season 4.
It is a plot hole. Where did he dock those ships? The haunted forest? While it made no sense logistically – i.e. doesn’t east watch gave a dock – it works symbolically bringing the freefolk through the wall.
It also served to create cheap tension. Will Alliser open the gate?
The show had several interesting episodes last season but seems rushed in presenting them. Perhaps that is due to the deadline that the showrunners set for themselves. The rest of the episodes did little to develop or move forward the show. Where I feel that the show let us down is in the character development. In the rush for big and bold I think we are being to the big and bold black and white brush strokes We who have read the books are missing the shades of gray that most characters in the world GRRM has created for us possess. Examples Littlefinger and Jamie we have not seen Jamie’s moves toward redemption as in the books. We don’t question if the white walkers are bad. The book is the book the show is the show. I will still be watching the new season glued to the tv to see what they give us this year.
I had no issue with Sansa taking the place of fArya, that story would have been too complicated for television.
I especially have no issue with the Selyse incident;, did they really need to spell it out? She just watched her daughter be burned alive by the woman she essentially worshipped, plus she was married to Stannis!
As much as I enjoy Bronn, I definitely could have done without the trip to Dorne, as seems to be the general consensus. Oh well. The Jaime/Myrcella thing was kind of nice… until it wasn’t.
Now It comes to Brienne. I didn’t mind the “coincidences, but I understand the complaint. It seemed like they didn’t know what to do with her. Hopefully that’s not an issue with the Riverlands this year.
Anyway, we are at the climax of the plot arc, so I’m not worried about “big” or “epic,” it should be those things. Perhaps they stumbled while setting up for it last season, but these things happen.
I share your concerns, Dan. If ‘epic’ means battle scenes with hundreds of extras and massive amounts of CGI, more isn’t necessarily better – especially if they take away the screentime that in the first few seasons was devoted to the smaller personal interactions that give this story its juice. My great fear is that the final season will be like a zombie apocalypse movie with 75% or more scenes of crowds fleeing wights, and no time left for the political deliciousness of Small Council meetings or Tyrion outsmarting someone or Arya and the Hound trading quips on the road. Boffo action movies are a dime a dozen; GoT has been better than that and should stay that way IMO.
I think the main fault in your logic is that a television show and a book are two very different things…To compare and contrast them is fine but to judge one to be better than the other is pointless. Simply put one can’t be better than the other because they’re not the same…they never could be the same…so enjoy the show for what it is and enjoy the books for what they are…I’m so sick of hearing this crap!!!
What’s wrong with expecting an adaptation to be reasonably faithful to the source material?
If the book was faithful we’d still be wandering around the Riverlands, and how many times did Harremhall change hands?
Of course one can be better than the other. Though which is better is usually a matter of opinion.
Some people think apples are better than oranges.
Indeed. I’m not unappreciative of the article and am worried that bigger us not better. That’s with the death of princes shareen was dramatically powerful and again Brienne killing Stanis because it worked for the story. Again sending Jon to Hardhome was a good decision. What I have enjoyed about the show is their dramatisation of events we only hear about in the book. Using spectical to help move the story has not so far been over played. Hardhome is an example of this serving narrative again. Dorne is an example of the narrative being sorely served but this can again be seen as a problem with the source material.
Great article. I agree 100%. It’s no coincidence that a lot of critics really cooled on season 5. For instance season 4 was 10th on the Guardian’s list of best shows for 2014 but season 5 was no where near that. They have lost the sense of proper pacing they had in the early seasons when dramatic scenes flowed into each other. I recently watched a British tv series River and the great writing in that reminded me how painfully badly the sand snakes were handled in comparison.
I’m not too worried. I still strongly believe season 6 will basically be book 5.5 and not so much yet TWOW. It’ll touch on some TWOW issues surely but mostly revolve around what ADWD told us and what the TV series has not yet shown us. At the end of TV season 6, we’ll have seen most of what is in ADWD and a few things from TWOW, no doubt with a lot being different and improvised by the show. Perhaps it’s therefor that there’ll be 8 TV seasons instead of 7, to wait one more year on GRRM and have enough TV time to tell a full story.
I know there’s people who don’t believe me, but I fully believe season 6 will be about 75% ADWD, 15% TWOW and 10% improvised. We’re only touching up on Euron just now, there’s not even a siege around Meereen yet, there’s not even a mention of a trial of Cersei and Margaery yet, Arya has plenty to do which the books have done on the FM. People think season 6 will be all TWOW because a few topics, such as Dany and the Dothraki, Jon Snow getting shanked and the introduction of Robert Strong have happened. They may well put that on a low fire this season and mostly let it simmer. I’m not worried. There’s enough ADWD material to fill three quarters of a season and no doubt the remaining quarter will be mostly Dorne content which they might largely improvise. And some of the filmed scenes where people think to have seen Jon Snow may even be kept archived for season 7, being more cost efficient to shoot now.
I suspect very, very few TWOW spoilers this season. I’m not concerned. I’ll be worried if out of nowhere GRRM admits in early 2017 that he needs a break and season 7 is around the corner.
Very few spoilers for Winds of Winter? Respectfully, I disagree. It’s true that Cersei, Jaime and Brianne will be treading on Feast for Crows material, but Bran, Jon, Danny, Mel, and Davos have all left their book plot behind. Virtually every scene with them will be Winds of Winter spoiler material, one way or the other.
Season 5 featured some truly terrible writing.
Give me some examples other than Dorne and the 20 good men part.
I don’t think Season 6 will have that many more big shocking moments than Season 5, but it does sound like they will be properly balanced throughout the season instead being crammed into the final 3 episodes.
Like in Season 4. Episode 2, Joffrey dead, Tyrion captured, Shit is going down m8! It sounds like Season 6 will be going back to that instead of slowly dragging itself along for 7 episodes and then going as nuts as possible during the final ones, like Season 5 did.
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