迪士尼公主 Article: Let's Talk About Frozen; Positives and Negatives

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Let's Talk About Frozen; Positives and Negatives

posted by avatar_tla_fan

Ok, I'm pretty sure everyone knows 由 now that I'm not a huge 《冰雪奇缘》 fan! And I 爱情 ranting and having debates, so how about we do a 辩论 again? (I know that they're going on in the 论坛 section but I'm going to do an 文章 because I don't want to differ from what they're talking about now.) this time, instead of talking about just Anna, Elsa, the parents, and the trolls, how about we talk about the positives and negatives of this movie?

How about I start with the positive section. There's got to be at least something I like about this movie, right?

The Positives

1.The Animation!
Ok, as most of 你 know, I have tons of problems with this movie, but the 动画片 is not one of them! The 动画片 is fantastic. Specific parts, like when Elsa builds the ice castle, are absolutely stunning. I really like how the characters look, I 爱情 the expressions they make, and I feel like they have great designs, although Anna and Elsa's look similar. I really enjoy the 动画片 as a whole. It feels ALIVE, like somebody is actually building a real castle, right in front of you. Just, stunning. Overall, the 动画片 is amazing and it's my 最喜爱的 computer animated 迪士尼 Princess movie animation.

你 want me to be honest? That's all the positives I've got.

The Negatives

1.The Plot-Line
*spoliers*
Ok, so let's see. The plot-line is..
A girl who has ice powers is isolated from the world because of her parents fear that they created a monster. 3 years after their parents die the oldest sister has her coronation while the youngest sister finds a man she wants to marry even though she JUST met him, but then the oldest sister accidentally reveals her ice powers and runs away, causing an eternal winter. The youngest sister goes off to rescue her (in her dress, what the heck Anna? There's snow and ice everywhere!) and she meets up with a person who sells ice. Anna basically BUYS her way up to him 由 practically BRIBING him. After that, they head off on an adventure, Kristoff's sled breaks (and if course Anna buys her way up to him again 由 promising a new sled.) they meet a snowman that's alive that the oldest sister created when she is about to build her ice castle, then they see the sister, Anna gets her upset, and they're forced off. Hans comes and locks the sister up, Anna's 心 is frozen, they go to the trolls and it turns out they need a true loves kiss, and they go to find Hans. Then it turns out Hans was a villain all along (yeah right, they just changed it at the last moment.) and he locks Anna up. After he locks Anna up, Olaf helps Anna get out, and then they find Elsa. Hans is about to kill Elsa when Anna sacrifices herself for her sister, Anna is frozen, and Elsa hugs her and she melts. Then Elsa SUDDENLY learns the key to melting stuff, love. (Couldn't it be something else?) everybody is happy.

It was awful. It was AWFUL.
I hated the entire plot line.
I had a lot of issues with the plot line.
Let's start off with the beginning, I've already talked about Elsa's parents, the abuse, all that.
Now on to Anna and Hans' marriage. So Anna meets a good looking guy, and falls in love. They sing a song, and ask the 皇后乐队 for her blessing. In the end, Anna learns that 你 shouldn't marry a man 你 just met. WHAT?! THAT was her lesson?! Even a little kid knows 你 can't just sing a song with somebody and immediately marry him! What the heck type of lesson was that even supposed to be?! Anna also NEVER develops throughout the plot. In the end, she's exactly the same person she was in the beginning. She's still an awkward, annoying, immature, annoyance. She learned what has to be the stupidest lesson of all time, and even though the real message was about sisterly love, Anna still seems to treat Elsa 更多 like a friend then her sister in the end. The whole plot line just bothers me so much!

2. The Characters
Well obviously they have to be on this list.
Anna: I really dislike her because she's annoying and I also don't think she really ever learned anything. Just like I mentioned before. She never develops. Take Rapunzel for example. Rapunzel starts out as a scared little girl, but develops over time, and she has that scene where she finally stands up to Mother Gothel. She's not desperate for attention either. She actually MAKES USE of what she has, which is something Anna DOES NOT do! Anna just sits around bored when she could be doing anything else! Have 你 seen the 城堡 she lives in? It's huge! She has a huge 城堡 to explore, play in, do stuff in, and there's probably much 更多 to do then that as well!
Elsa: I honestly don't blame Elsa for much. What her parents have done to her is traumatizing. But after her parents die, she still can't talk to Anna, that annoys me, but it's honestly Anna's fault. She asks Elsa all the time, and every time she does it, it brings up all of Elsa's memories. It annoys me. Anna was 5 when Elsa is locked in her room, and when Anna is 18, she's still knocking on her door. If Elsa doesn't want to come out, then LEAVE HER ALONE ANNA!
Kristoff: I personally don't care for Kristoff.
Olaf: I mostly despise Olaf for two reasons. One, he's just merchandising. There's a difference between merchandising and comic relief. Comic relief is ACTUALLY FUNNY, and people like them because of that. Merchandising is usually a made up creature that kids love, and they use it to make parents buy those toys for their kids. My 秒 problem with Olaf is his voice. I find it extremely annoying and irritating.
Sven: Dint really care for him either.

Well, those are my positives and negatives of the movie. I have a lot of issues with the movie, and I really have a neutral (and possible dislike) of this movie.
What do 你 think about the movie?
What do 你 think some of the positives and negatives are?
Let me know in the comments! :D

Chernaborg, PrueFever and 18 others like this

audreybrooke I don't have any positive things to say about Frozen, honestly. Good article! :)

avatar_tla_fan Thanks.

Digoenes I agree with most of your points. I liked the movie enough (probably not enough to watch it again though) but another issue I had with it is how it presumes how groundbreaking its themes are. You can't marry a man you just met? SHOCKER! What Disney movie has actually done that aside from Cinderella and Sleeping Beauty? In nearly all of their movies since then (both DP and none), the characters met and bonded together, even had a series of misadventures before getting together and even then they don't get married right away (Rapunzel/Eugene, Jasmine/Aladdin, etc). Second it does nothing to explain Elsa's powers or how the two bonded as sisters, in the end it's just TRUE LOVE AS SISTERS and suddenly she can control her powers. There is no buildup just resolution. I think the movie is as popular as it is is because Elsa is such a blank slate that literally any one can project their problems onto her. And Anna instead of coming off as being genuinely weird and awkward, feels like she was designed to be awkward because women relate to that right? Plus she loves chocolate, women SO love chocolate! Olaf I was fine with, he wasn't as horrible as I thought he would be and seemed like a genuine character. Overall, the movie is fine but incredibly overrated, I hope Frozen mania dies down and more worthy films take its place.

BelleRose829 I especially hate how the shoe horned Hans in to be the villain when lord knows he was GENUINELY NICE to Anna. The whole reason for conflict starts with the parents just being terrible.

avatar_tla_fan Diogoenes, I couldn't agree more! I hate how Anna falls for him because of his looks! It's annoying how she does that. She bonds with Kristoff though, but the love comes out of no where! The trolls sing the song and suddenly it's oddly obvious that Kristoff is in love with Anna. At least in movies like Tangled, you can start to see a relationship building, and they hint at it a couple times before they really fall in love. Also, yes, it IS INCREDIBLY overrated. It doesn't deserve any of the success it got.

avatar_tla_fan Bellerose, exactly. They obviously just wanted to change Elsa from being the villain at the last moment. And in the story it's based off of, the snow queen IS the villain, so they're not only making things ridiculous, but they're completely changing the original story!

AudreyFreak The plot really annoys me to and is probably why I can't stand watching this movie much anymore. it's unoriginal and I personally find it really catty- Disney is basically backhanding their own themes because they think the audience will like it more. it's like that one kid who is nice to you till the group they want to impress walks by, then suddenly they're making fun of you to make them like them. Shrek at least wasn't so mean-spirited about it, and it's just hypocritical to make fun of your own movies that made you a success. and yes, it's definitely common sense to not marry strangers! but the movie is dumb for acting like that's weird for that time period when it wasn't really. girls got arranged marriages to other royals all the time without knowing them (though granted it was typically done by the parents). The animation is also the best thing I have to say, too, though it doesn't differ too much from Tangled's style, but the colors are very nice, almost entirely a cool palette. I disagree on one thing though- Anna definitely learns to not be so quick to give her heart away while Rapunzel doesn't really change at all, she stays exactly as cheery and adorable as she always was. the whole "or should I even call you that?!" scene makes me cringe because it feels so forced and uncharacteristic. I also don't see why it's Anna's fault for wanting to be there for Elsa- this is being kind and supportive. she's trying to be there for someone she honestly thinks must dislike her. How would she know Elsa is staying in for that reason (the powers)? plus, if she just gave up, then she'd get criticized for being a quitter.

avatar_tla_fan That is a good perspective on things, and one thing I do have to say about Anna is I do like how much she really cares for her sister. Anyways, thanks for sharing your opinion.

misscindyspice Totally agree with BelleRose on Hans. You SEE him smile genuinely at Anna when no one is around, you see him apologize and be sweet to her before he knew she was a princess. I seriously wish Elsa had been the villain, we would have gotten such an interesting and perhaps heartbreaking story about childhood friends, and adult enemies. We could have delved deep into Elsa's sympathetic, but villainous personality, and seen the hurt and sadness when Anna has to defeat Elsa. It could have been like Loki and Thor! But NOO, we had to write Let it Go and create a sloppy villain and heroine. Ugh, it grinds my gears.

avatar_tla_fan Yes! Couldn't they at least fix things up at the beginning?! If they're going to pull something like that, they need to put ONE sign that he's evil, even if it's hard to spot.

Swanpride Let it go is a really good song...but, yeah, I have a hard time to find the good in this movie, too.

avatar_tla_fan The movies plot line is weak and most of the characters are completely unlikeable. Beyond all that, I don't even think it's funny either.

OnceABlueMoon I don't really agree on the idea that Anna fell for Hans just because of his looks. Sure she might have gotten a bit flustered when she first met him, but if he had ended up being an emotionless blob she would have most likely completely ignored him to try and reconnect with her sister. But she stays with his and interacts with him because he seems to be the one person who actually understands what she's going through. He's someone whose two oldest brothers have literally ignore for two years of his life as a "practical joke" and has been using Arendelle as his one chance to leave the shadows of his brothers and actually find some happiness for himself. Pre-betrayal Hans is perfect for Anna, and you know what, she is perfect for him too. Way more than Kristoff anyone, since he at least doesn't trivialize the emotional trauma Anna has been going through. SINCE HE'S GOING THROUGH THE SAME THING! Really, the only reason we're not supposed to trust him at first is because he's a guy. He literally has the exact same back story as Anna.

Diazdiaz95 Wow, I might be alone on this but I actually really liked this film although I do think that it's overrated and has more than a few issues with the plot. It is unfair that it is being paraded as a groundbreaking achievement which it wasn't. The story telling did seemed rushed and thrown together at times and they could have put more detail into the animation and either make Hans a better villain or not make him a villain at all. I would have much preferred the originally planned version to the final product, from what I've heard about it but I still really liked it, it's in my top 5, maybe it's my Disney guilty pleasure, who knows. I liked the characters, although they could have done more with Elsa. I love the soundtrack, I think that it is easily the best Disney soundtrack since Tarzan (well Brave's was great but it's a Pixar film and I'm only referring to Walt Disney Pictures' films. The humor does seem a bit forced but it didn't bother me. I think it still had that Disney magic so I enjoyed it but it's not like I'm a part of the craze or anything. I don't listen to the songs or watch the movie all the time. I own the movie and I've only seen it twice at home and once in theaters and I only occasionally sing the songs. Even I'm a little tired of hearing Let it Go everywhere and still hearing all the hype. I think that it was overall a very nice movie and far from Disney's worst but that's just my apparently unpopular opinion :) Nice article!

avatar_tla_fan Diazdiaz95 I actually did sort of like the soundtrack, well some of the songs, and I agree about the brave soundtrack, I loved it! But anyway, back to Frozen, yes, I think it is incredibly overrated and it doesn't deserve the success, money, and critical love that it got.

avatar_tla_fan Onceabluemoon, interesting. You're right though If he was a blob them she probably would have ignored him.

Digoenes I don't know about the film's development history (aside from the fact that Walt himself wanted to adapt the Snow Queen) but it seems that as soon as they wanted to make Elsa a hero then they had to scramble and come up with an antagonist so they chose Hans because he's the perfect prince Charming type and there has never been a villainous Prince Charming before (cough Shrek 2). In the original story, the Snow Queen wasn't really a villain, just an amoral force that Gerda had to save her friend Kai from. The original story is kind of weird and Disney is not known for sticking true to the source material but rather adapting it for a modern audience. With that said, they could have done a better job and kept the girl saves boy part of the story and still have Elsa/the Snow Queen as more of a force of nature than a villain.

avatar_tla_fan Interesting. I don't really know much about the original story, but I know Disney has done some stories from the guy who made them (Hans Christian Anderson, I don't know if I spelled it right.) and they usually twist it (the little mermaid) because the original stories are much darker, so it's really only a loose adaptation.

BKG201 I largely disagree but I managed to read the entire thing without throwing my computer across my room in frustration.

scarletunicorn The music is really good...Both the instrumentals and the songs, it's hard to keep them out of your head. Everything else, though, from the unlikeable characters to the stupid morals and dumb writing to the forced jokes and how they're just coat tailing in Tangled's success...Just ugh

Renegade1765 I don't want to sound immature. But...screw you! You're like "Because people who love this movie and the characters are idiots". Well who the hell are you to talk down everyone else's beliefs like that!? Sorry for being angry,but you were very insensitive in this article.And for someone like me who Frozen means a lot,this is just insulting.

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Best Ending Countdown Results (Voted 由 Fanpop)

posted by princecatcher93

And they Lived Happily Ever After…sigh for every Beginning with must have an but which of are lovely 迪士尼 Ladies got the Best Ending for her Movie.

11: Aladdin
♪♪♪For 你 and me… *cue Genie laugh* AHAHAHAHAH GOT YOU! That my 老友记 is how 你 wreak an ending, everything was almost perfect if 你 take a lot of things from this ending out, like Genie in the moon, the rushed ending, the dragging on of I pick 你 Prince Ali who 你 use be tan but now you’re white! It just didn’t come together like a True Ending…it was rushed…badly.
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10 Fanpoppers that Remind me of Animated 迪士尼 Characters

posted by hajirah4

Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you, the anticipated, the nerve-wrecking...

Ack. This looks girly, I know. But I was in a rush, and I really liked this and so I just smacked on some fonts and... tadaaaa!

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Jayden-G
No doubt about it, he's very logical, down-to-earth, intelligent, creative, and has a great sense of humor! He seems like the kind of person who could grow up as a writer 或者 journalist, and always works hard. This guy, like Roger Radcliffe, will never give up!

Next up is...

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Mongoose09
She's bold (literally),...

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My 最喜爱的 DP Homes

posted by starlight77

I once saw an 文章 done on everyone's opinion of this and I thought it would be cool to write an 文章 of my own. There is also a countdown going on about homes and there was one about 最喜爱的 rooms and they inspired me to write this. So here's my 最佳, 返回页首 ten 最喜爱的 homes.

10. The Chateau

Many years ago, before 灰姑娘 was born and probably when she was probably very little, the mansion was a happy place where her father and her mother entertained the elite and lived in complete bliss. Everyone usually hates this house because it's associate with Lady Tremaine and it looks awful...

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Everything wrong with 《冰雪奇缘》 (not explained in long paragraphs)

posted by naturallycurly

1 - Elsa is born with ice powers and we don't know how she got them

2 - If Anna was so worried about Elsa why was she wasting her time on Hans when she could be talking to her sister?

3 - Anna's main goal is to get her sister out of her room and when she does come out Anna doesn't give her 更多 than a 分钟 of attention aside from asking the blessing of her to marry someone.

4 - Anna wants to marry a guy she hasn't even know for 20 minutes.

5 - Couldn't of Elsa just froze the peoples feet so they would stop chasing her?

6 - Anna can't see a huge ice 城堡 that's ontop of a huge 爬坡道, 小山 but she can...

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Elsa

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Aurora in College

posted by Alantlm

MAJOR: PHILOSOPHY
Specialization: undecided

MINOR: MUSICAL THEATRE
Stereotype: dreamer

PHILOSOPHY MAJOR

Probably not what you’re expecting, but I hope to 显示 that Aurora is very suited to philosophy.

To begin with, in Aurora's bedroom - if we look closely - we will see that she has two books. Being the 14th century (a century before Gutenberg's printing press) not only would 图书 be very expensive and rare but literacy rates were very low - even lower considering her demographic: sixteen, female, peasant. 由 having 图书 at this time, education / knowledge is extremely important in the household...

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Why I think Maleficent isn't a good villain

posted by shanyuisboss

A MUCH better villain, wouldn't 你 agree?

A MUCH better villain, wouldn't you agree?

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What I consider a good villian is not all about cool posing 或者 evil laughs. It's not all about how evil they seem 由 the way that they act 或者 how many people they get to fear of them. To me, it's all about the ruthlessness, the...

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Purty Princesses. :3

posted by CRaZy_rawR

Mkay. I know my prettiest princess 列表 is kind of full of unpopular opinions. XD I find them all pretty, but some 更多 so than others. I'm going to put the I find the prettiest up for each princess.

Prettiest shot, 由 faaaar.

13. Snow White

She is cute, honestly. Yes, I do realize that she is only fourteen, and isn't supposed to look mature. I just really dislike her lips, her eye shape, and eye color. I do like her hair. I think her 颜色 have nice contrast, but I can't seem to get past the face shape and her other facial features.

Please note: I am not a Snow White 或者 Classic Era hater....

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最佳, 返回页首 15 PRETTIEST PRINCESSES

posted by Beauty230405

I will be adding some non-princesses to this list!

15- Merida- Sorry to say this guys.. but I find her hideous. I find no beauty in her at all. She's weird looking. Especially with the 动画片 she is in. To the people who like her I'm not saying anything bad about her I'm just stating my honest opinion so please don't get offended.

14- Kida- I find absolutely nothing appealing to her. I always thought she kind of looked like a man. She also as white hair and weird eyes.. how i that beauty? Again, just my opinion no hate.

13- Rapunzel- I just think they could of done better.. I don't like the...

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Why I 爱情 Pocahontas

posted by dclairmont

I've already made an 文章 like this for link, link, link, and link, and thought it was only right to do one for the amazing Pocahontas. Pocahontas has gone through a roller coaster on my list, most recently being 10th on my list, but I've always loved her. When I first came to the club, Pocahontas was my 秒 favorite, and she's finally joined back into the 最佳, 返回页首 5, now coming in at 4 (3 if 你 don't count Elsa). Well anyway let's get starting with me talking about why I 爱情 Pocahontas!

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迪士尼公主

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Fanpop's 最喜爱的 of the 年 2013 Part 1. 最喜爱的 DP Movie

posted by princecatcher93

图标 made 由 sweetie-94 to wish 你 a Happy New 年

Icon made by sweetie-94 to wish you a Happy New Year

This is part 1 of Fanpop’s 最喜爱的 and this is 最喜爱的 DP Film now this isn’t my opinion at all if it was 你 guys would all know if it was me. No 《冰雪奇缘》 was ranked because it wasn’t out all over the world yet. This 文章 will also be followed up 由 follow up 民意调查 in which 你 guys share your thoughts on the ranking. So where it says, People said It won’t be in bold just to let 你 know that’s where I put in your guys’ opinions which will have your thoughts but will be in my words*. Now on with the first ranking.

Eleventh: 《勇敢传说》 with 145 points

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rhythmicmagic's DP 唱歌 Voice Ranking

posted by rhythmicmagic

The 迪士尼 princesses are known for their voices. In some cases, it is the first quality people describe about them. I 爱情 music, and I 爱情 to sing, so this is something I really love. So here is my personal opinion on the 迪士尼 princess 唱歌 voices!

10. Ariel
Ariel’s voice isn’t that bad, if it’s your type. Which it’s not particularly mine. I prefer a deeper tone and richer timbre. But if that’s all I have to say negative about it, why is it my least favorite? One little thing: SHE SINGS THROUGH HER NOSE. Up where they stay all 日 in the sun, ready to know, get some answers,...

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Tygers_Eye's Thoughts On Each 迪士尼 Princess

posted by Tygers_Eye

Princesses in peasant clothes hanging out.

I've 说 before that I can't make a ranked 迪士尼 Princess 列表 because I 爱情或者 like all the princesses to a certain extent, so it's impossible to put them in a strict 1 to 13 order. However, some have requested that I just write my thoughts on each one, so I'll do that here. I'll 列表 each princess in order from when she came out.

Snow White - I feel pretty neutral about her. Snow White and the Seven Dwarves was one of the first 迪士尼 princess films I saw since I got it for 圣诞节 at age three. I liked the movie, but truthfully Snow White never made an impression. She was just kind of...

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Ariel in her grotto

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Fanpop's 最喜爱的 of the 年 2013 Part 2. 最喜爱的 DP Villains

posted by princecatcher93

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The Little Mermaid: 1989 vs 2023

posted by deedragongirl

Team 1989?

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The Storyline

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Snow White's Prettiest Dresses in my opinion

posted by PrincessAyeka12

7th Place

7) Bejewelled Princess Dress

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6) Makeover glittery and patterned dress

This is better than the last one but still over-the top. This time it's the 金牌 patterns on the skirt. There's too many patterns. The 紧身胸衣 part is more. subtle with a singular pattern on the side. I like that. But the shiny blue sleeves are distracting. Too shiny. Her headband is...

My least 最喜爱的迪士尼 princess to 最喜爱的

posted by BayleeVV

Hi! In this I’m going to be rating my personal least 最喜爱的迪士尼 princesses (and a few extra) to favorite. Obviously this is my personal opinion, and your welcome to disagree with me.

18. Snow White (Snow White)

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2.5

17. Cinderella...

Let's Compare. 文章 1: Both versions of Aladdin.

posted by mhs1025

Hey, y'all! Welcome to my first 文章 of this series! I'll be talking about each detail from both a tradionally animated film AND a live-action one. Keep in mind, while I'm happy to give my input on a majority of these films, some I'm going to have to mentally prepare for in the meantime. But let's not go further into that. Let's get on with the show.

Today's 文章 will be about both versions of Aladdin.

The characters:

The character development for each character is well done. I'm not going to lie about that quality, but I'd like to point out afew things about the flaws.

Aladdin:

First off,...