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Does anyone else have a problem with how Neal treated Tamara?

Don't get me wrong, I hate Tamara. She did absolutely awful things and has no redeeming qualities. Neal had no excuse for how he treated her, she deserved it, but he didn't know that. It was 更多 than clear that as soon as he saw Emma again he wanted to get back with her. He and Tamara were engaged but when did Neal ever really 显示 her affection? Ever since the "The 皇后乐队 is Dead" it was all about Emma. You'd think that if he asked her to marry him he wouldn't admit that he loved his ex from ten years 以前 秒 after breaking off their wedding. You'd think he'd be a bit 更多 broken up about the whole thing, no?
 TDDD posted 一年多以前
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minervadawn said:
你 sort of have it out for Neal don't you? Anyway, here's how I see it...

I really liked tamara when she was first introduced. I had been hoping for a completely normal earth human caught it the magical crossfire of the curse for a long time. (My 最喜爱的 type of characters have always been your average goodhearted joe who gets mixed up in something extraordinary) At first I thought that might be Neal, but I didn't have high hopes for that. then we learn that he has a fiance and she appears to be a kind, decent, unconditionally understanding person, i.e your average everyday human. She was the perfect person for Neal, a man who wanted 更多 then anything else to live a normal life without magic.

How it came across to me at the time (obviously I was wrong) was that Tamara, who loved Neal unconditionally, was aware that he might still have feelings for his old flame but also realized how important it was for him to reconnect with his son. Think how terrible it would have been for her to forbid he from seeing henry because she couldn't trust him around Emma. She choose to trust him.

At the same time Neal knowing how difficult this would be on Tamara made every effort to include her in the process. Even with the unresolved feeling he had for Emma he remained faithful to Tamara and was very clear that nothing happen between them to Emma.

I believe they all did very well in making the best of a very tricky situation and i was very pleased with them. that was until they reveal that it was all a lie and Tamara is actually a sociopath and all my hopes were dashed against the rocks. Boo.
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posted 一年多以前 
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Feelings for another 或者 not, I refuse to give someone 支持 for not cheating. That's like giving someone a prize for basic human decency. I'm trying to be objective when it comes to Neal, but I've liked very little of what I've seen of him so far and I guess whenever I write about him I'm trying to get across where my feelings of dislike are coming from. I think I was a little frustrated with the whole Tamara situation because I wanted to see what Neal was like outside of Emma and seeing him interact with his fiancée would have done that. But it was literally all about Emma - whenever they were alone they were talking about Emma, when Emma was there he was gazing at her like a lovelorn puppy. I get that thay had a son together and he needs to get along with her but I'd have liked to see him actually spend some meaningful time with his fiancée as well.
TDDD posted 一年多以前
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First, I'm sorry if my first 问题 was a little aggressive. 阅读 it now I see how it could come off that way. In response, Feeling is very different then doing. It is only natural for old feelings to come up when meeting up with and old flame that 你 never really got over. The hard part is recognizing those feelings and not 表演 on them. I'm not saying he should be praised for not doing something bad just that he shouldn't be condemned for doing something he only thought about. Also, I disagree I believe people should be 给 a prize for basic human decency 更多 often. It's much harder then people think and the nice guy is so often forgotten beside the 更多 exciting characters. Then they are crucified for a minor slip up that would be overlooked if committed 由 the grayer characters. I have the same issue staying objective with Hook which is one of the reasons I enjoy your 文章 so much. they give me a different perspective. Have 你 ever thought (and please don't take this the wrong way. I'm just wondering) that 你 might just be looking for reasons to hate Neal because 你 want Hook and Emma together and don't want someone who doesn't deserve it to get hurt in the process? One thing I do agree with, I would have really liked to see him spend 更多 time with his fiancee. I would have liked to see him 显示 that he had changed (and was now worthy of Emma) 由 truly committing to a healthy relationship based on 爱情 and trust. However Tamara screwed that all up 由 turning out not the be the loving, understanding fiancee I thought she was. I cant even describe how annoyed I was when they reveled that.
minervadawn posted 一年多以前
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或者 his fear of magic outweighed his feeling for her at the time. He knew he couldn't save her from it but couldn't find the courage follow her into it. It was a cowardly decision but a weakness that draws me to his character. I enjoy weaknesses of character the open up such a delightful potential for growth.
minervadawn posted 一年多以前
zanhar1 said:
No. But I hate how Tamara treated Neal; spilling coffee on him to make a set up relationship in which she used him to try to kill people. "After this is over the ring is coming off." At least Neal actually loved Tamara and stuck up for her when Emma suggested that she could be evil.

I also feel like the only reason not much affection was expressed for one of 2 reasons;

1. They simply didn't have room for it in the plot, it would have just been extra unneeded fluff.
2. Not all people are affectionate in relationships. I have the capability to 爱情 but I hate hugs and I hate kisses. I don't like being touched. Relationships aren't just about touching each other so to speak.
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When I talk about closeness and affection I don't really mean physical. I would have been extremely happy with a single scene that proved his 爱情 for her. This 文章 isn't about Tamara, It's about the portrayal of a supposed 'good' character, and how he doesn't really endear me to him despite his 'nice guy' qualities. He may have loved her but he never proved showed it. All we saw in the 显示 was a man who got engaged to a woman he has no emotional connection with. Tamara is not one of the 'good guys' she can get away with 表演 like a terrible human being. Maybe most people view an actual connection between Neal and Tamara as unneeded but if they wanted to make me actually like Neal it was extremely necessary.
TDDD posted 一年多以前
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Oh okay, my bad. I think most 'good' characters are hypocrites if 你 want to go there, in fact I just 发布 an 文章 on that. Personally, I don't really care for Neal either way around. I simply don't ship Neal and Tamara, I just don't see any chemistry. I hate Tamara for how she treated Neal, and I don't care for what Neal didn't do for Tamara if that makes any sense.
zanhar1 posted 一年多以前
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I don't ship Neal and anyone really, especially Emma. and there's a whole 文章 to prove it. There's was just so many thing that bugged me about Neal and this was one that popped into my head that people generally don't think about. There;s now an 文章 outlining why exactly I dislike basically everything about Neal, if you're interested in a 更多 in depth analysis.
TDDD posted 一年多以前
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I ship everyone with like everyone with very few exceptions. I'll have to check your 文章 out. I don't really have any strong feelings about Neal one way 或者 another.
zanhar1 posted 一年多以前
beekee404 said:
i'm sorry but no. the woman deserves no sympathy whatsoever. she's the one who cheated on neal with greg. its not like neal and emma snuck around secretly to make out 或者 anything. he only revealed that he never stopped caring about her. and that he still loves her but also loves (loved) tamara. why? i dont know. frankly i dont see anything attractive about her. she's ugly, selfish, stupid and just downright EVIL! sorry for my rant 哈哈 my point is that no i dont have a problem with how neal treated her except for those scenes where they 吻乐队(Kiss) lol
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It's not that I have sympathy for Tamara - karmic logic would say she deserves whatever comes to her. The way I view it though, is that Neal's [i]supposed[/i] to be a 'good guy' right? And you're [i]supposed[/i] to hate Tamara, she's a villain. But just because I find her detestable it doesn't mean I don't find Neal's behavior to be less than stellar. He didn't know she was evil, he treated her like she was almost 秒 best (he [i]was[/i] mooning after Emma), all the while thinking she was sweet and wonderful, caring and kind. Would 你 still have that opinion if she was a genuinely nice person?
TDDD posted 一年多以前
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