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So I am 阅读 reasons as to why Twilight 粉丝 think Twilight is better than Harry Potter. I just want to make it clear; there is a big difference between liking one series better than another, and one series actually being better than another. I also want to reply to some of the 更多 common ones I've seen.



"Twilight has 更多 love!"
Okay, Twilight does not have 更多 爱情 than Harry Potter 由 any means. Twilight has a lot of obsessive lust, which is often mistaken for love, but they are quite different.

Why is their relationship lust? Why isn't it love?

Well, what do Bella and Edward do together? They stare at each other, and they talk about who loves the other more, and they make out, and, in Breaking Dawn, they make 爱情 to each other. That's really about it. The reason they meet is because Bella looks across the cafeteria, notices that he's the hottest guy in school, and automatically decides that he is the only one good enough for her. Edward realizes he cannot read her mind, and he wants to invade her privacy (he makes up for being unable to stalk her thoughts 由 stalking her physically and watching her sleep), and he realizes she smells good, which is another bonus for him. Another thing to note; Bella ignores the fact that Edward was a complete jerk to her for reasons unknown to her the first time they met. The hot guy is talking to her! And he's hot! He must 爱情 her! (Me: *groans*)

Do Bella and Edward share common interests? We do not know, because they never talk about each other's interests, likes, dislikes, hobbies, etc. Maybe this is due to the fact that neither really has any hobbies 或者 interests outside of each other. In that case, why don't they go out and do something together? They can try new things, travel, go out on a date, etc. They didn't even know each other for long before claiming their “eternal love” for each other. They had four conversations, to be exact.

Also, all they ever talk about is each other's physical appearances. They never sit and talk about things (outside of each other's looks), 或者 joke around, 或者 get to know each other. What does Bella really know about Edward? What does Edward really know about Bella? Sure, they could both describe the other perfectly without hesitation, but beyond that, both of them are pretty clueless.

In Breaking Dawn, Bella is uncharacteristically happy at the moment when Edward is in the most misery and pain. How is this so? If she loved him as much as she thinks she does, she would have known; nobody can hide that much pain from their true love. Either she didn't care, which shows that she is selfish and only loves Edward's hotness, 或者 she is just oblivious, which shows that she does not know him and therefore cannot truly 爱情 him for any reason other than his good looks, which would be called lust.

One 更多 thing; each seems to think of the other as perfect. What's wrong with that, 你 ask? Well, a lot, frankly. When 你 爱情 someone, 你 are not blind to their flaws; rather, 你 爱情 them despite their flaws. If 你 are blind to your partners flaws, it shows that 你 do not know them, and it shows that the relationship does not go past lust. In real love, 你 know your partners flaws, and 你 accept them, and 你 爱情 your partner anyway.

In New Moon, Edward dumps Bella. Not only does Bella feel heartbroken; she goes way overboard. She goes into “zombie-mode” for four months, refusing to speak to anyone, including 老友记 and family. Who knew it was possible for her to have even less of a life than she had before? 你 may think, “oh, she's just devoted to him!” No. Just, no. What this really shows is that she is weak and completely dependent. So what does this have to do with her relationship to Edward? The moment Jacob – the 下一个 hottie in town – starts paying her attention, she automatically feels better. That proves the relationship to be lust. All she really wants is a hot guy looking after her. However, Edward is hotter than Jacob, so he's still the one on her mind.

Now, let's look at some 爱情 in Harry Potter. Ron and Hermione end up as a couple. They knew each other for years, and they had a little crush on each other since 年 one. However, they started off as friends. Not all relationships must be this way, but this is a good way to begin one. Both knew everything about each other. Ron knew all about Hermione's interests, likes, dislikes and hobbies, and vice versa. They have done many things together, and they know each other inside and out. They are aware of each others flaws, but accept them and 爱情 each other anyway. With Harry and Ginny, they knew each other for a while, but only became really close 老友记 in Harry's fifth 年 (Ginny's fourth year). Harry and Ginny loved playing Quidditch together, loved talking and joking around with each other, and loved each other despite their flaws. Harry does not completely obsess over Ginny and what she is doing every moment of every 日 (which is a sign of obsessiveness, which relates to lust 更多 than it does to love), but he does worry about her safety when he is in 搜索 of the horcruxes.

Then, there is Snape's 爱情 for Lily. This is a very painful relationship, for she does not 爱情 him back. Snape accepts the fact that Lily went with another man, even if that man happened to be his worst enemy, because he knew Lily was happier that way. It destroyed him, but he didn't once try to stop her. His 爱情 for Lily ultimately turned him against Voldemort, and he made it his life's effort to protect Harry; the boy he hated for being Jame's son, yet loved for being Lily's son. He protected Harry at all costs, in the name of Lily, and fought firmly against Voldemort, so that Lily would not die in vain.

Then there is parental love; Molly killing Bellatrix singlehandedly to protect her children, Lily sacrificing her life for her son, when she could have continued to live had she turned him over. Xenophilius gave up on everything he believed in to save his daughter (Luna) and even the Lucius and Narcissa Malfoy did whatever it took to ensure the safest future for their son (Draco). There is friendship love; Harry doing everything he can to protect Ron and Hermione, Ginny (before they were in love) and Luna and Neville and everyone else he cares for, and them doing the same for him (and for each other). Couples such as Lupin x 唐克斯 and Bill x Fleur loved each other despite the fact that Bill was horribly scarred 由 Fenrir Greyback, and despite the fact that Lupin was a werewolf; despite the fact that Bellatrix desperately wanted to kill her cousin (Tonks) for marrying an “impure” wizard. There is familial love; look at the Weasleys! Also, Dumbledore loved Ariana, and what happened to her really tormented him even as an old man. There is gay love; Dumbledore and Grindelwald, most likely. Then, look at Harry's sacrifice! He was willing to let himself die to save everyone he loved, and even people he didn't even know! Lord Voldemort's defeat happened not because Harry was so much 更多 advanced in magic than Voldemort. It was because Voldemort could not understand love, so therefore he underestimated it's power.

The only thing Twilight has 更多 than Harry Potter is romance. However, that does not make Twilight a better book. That is a matter of preference. The reason having 更多 爱情 does make Harry Potter better is because Twilight attempted to make the perfect form of love, but failed horribly, for it was not even love. It was romance.



The main character is easier to relate to!
I understand why people might say this. Twilight is written in the First Person (which means, “I did this, I 说 that” as opposed to, “He did this, he 说 that.”) Some people feel as if they can relate to the protagonist better this way because they can know the characters thoughts directly.

However, I do not think it works here. What is so relatable about a girl who does nothing? She has virtually no friends; the few that she does have she ignores the majority of the time anyway. She has no hobbies; she sits around staring at her boyfriend all day. No, cooking and cleaning are not hobbies the way she does them. If she were cooking for the sheer joy of making delicious dishes, that would be a hobby. However, she does it because it is the “mature” thing to do (more like, the anti-feminist thing to do, but that's another story). 摩托车 does not count either. She doesn't motorcycle because she loves motorcycling; she does it because she wants to hear her boyfriends voice in her head. She was planning on giving it up, had she not wanted to keep leading on Jacob (she had to please him in order to lead him on and use him more). Hermione never even considered giving up reading. Even when they went to find Voldemort's horcruxes, though it was an extremely dangerous journey, she insisted on packing “a library” full of 图书 with them (as quoted 由 Ron). What is so relatable about being instantly the most 流行的 girl at your knew school, despite the fact that you've spoken to nobody? What is so relatable about having so many people adore you, even though 你 rarely ever bother to speak to them?

Though 你 may not be able to put yourself in Harry's shoes, there are aspects about him in which 你 can relate to. We can all relate to getting bullied. We can all relate to getting into fights. We can all relate to having bad relationships (well, if you're of the right age yet). We can all relate to feeling outcast. We can all relate to dealing with loss. Then, there are a lot of us who can relate to loving a sport (or another hobby) so much that we are willing to lose sleep (or possibly health) in order to pursue it. We can all relate to having 老友记 你 cannot imagine being without. We can all relate to the mood swings of our teenage years.

Harry has flaws, which makes him a relatable character. Some of his flaws include angst, being impulsive, disregarding the rules, and laziness when it comes to school work. This gives him a strong personality, and we can picture him as being a real person. He has a hobby (which can even, at times, be considered a passion) which is Quidditch. He has many relationships with other characters (friendship, love, lust, admiration, competition, dislike, etc.) Bella does not have this, making her character horribly unrealistic.



Bella is a great role model!
Again, I have to disagree with this. I do not see how she is a good role model. She:
-Gets pregnant as a teenager
-Skips college to marry her boyfriend right out of high school
-Abuses her friends

The first two don't really need explanation. The third, however, may raise some eyebrows. When does Bella ever abuse her friends?

Well, there's Jessica. Yeah, I know, Jessica didn't like Bella either. That is not the point here. Bella just arrives at school, and just before her instant popularity kicks in, Jessica is the very first person to talk to her, give her a place to sit at lunch, and introduce her to people. What does Bella do in response? She doesn't try to keep up with what Jessica is saying, and she doesn't even try to remember the girl's name! She also automatically classifies her as shallow, then refuses to see her in any other way. Then, in New Moon, Bella takes Jessica to the movies. There, Bella puts Jessica in potential danger to try to hear her boyfriend's voice. If Jessica really were a bad friend who didn't care about Bella, she would have left. She would have run away. But she didn't. She stayed right 由 Bella's side, despite the fact that she was terrified and aware of the fact that Bella had been using her. This shows her to be extremely 《勇敢传说》 and loyal. In thanks, what does Bella do? Bella decides that because Jessica is pissed off at Bella for putting her in danger selfishly, she must be a shallow 婊子, 子 without giving the situation a 秒 thought.

There is Mike Newton. Yes, he can be annoying, and I totally understand what that is like. However, when she invites him to the 电影院 with Jacob, she stands 由 and does nothing as Jacob verbally harasses her “friend” and laughs along with him.

Then there is Jacob himself. In Twilight, she flirts with him to get information from him. Yeah, it's not nice, but for the most part, it is harmless. In New Moon, however, she wants to hear Edward's voice. She can only trust a hot guy with anything of importance, so she uses him to build her a motorcycle so that she can put herself at risk to hear her boyfriend's voice. In Eclipse, she has already been engaged to Edward. Now, if Bella were nearly as mature as Stephenie Meyer would like us to think she is, she would have told Jacob that she was not interested in a relationship because she was already engaged. However, she did not do this. She continued to lead Jacob on, flirting with him, messing with his head, only to break his heart. She did so ruthlessly; she chose the time when he was in the most pain to break the news to him. When she kisses him back, she did so knowing that she was only going to end up hurting him more, and that she was cheating on Edward 由 doing this. Now, 你 could say, “But Bella felt so guilty all the times she used him!” Do 你 really think that gives her the right to do it again? Okay, sure, use someone, feel sorry for a few minutes, then that gives 你 the right to do it all over again? I'm sorry, but that isn't how it works.

Now, I want to mention that Bella is 由 no means a good parent. First off, she doesn't care that Jacob Imprinted on her baby. She doesn't care that he will be a Child Groomer, with her baby as a victim. No; she is angry because she doesn't like the nickname he gave her! Seriously? This proves that Bella is shallow, and that she is not actually in 爱情 with her baby; she is in 爱情 with the idea of having a baby. Also, she doesn't care for her baby. I realize that it is her honeymoon. That doesn't change the fact that she is being an irresponsible parent. Instead, she spends her time making 爱情 with her boyfriend like a nymphomaniac. I do not think it is because the baby has human blood. If Bella was “miraculously” (more like, speshul-snowflake-Mary-Sueishly) able to refrain from eating people in the middle of hunting, and she was able to refrain from eating her dad (another full human), she should be perfectly fine around her baby. But no; she comes in every once in a while to stare at the baby's beauty, then goes back to making 爱情 with Edward again.

One last note; Bella is utterly anti-feminist, and therefore a bad role model to girls. She doesn't 爱情 Edward, but she certainly depends on him (or at least some hot guy. Jacob will do, I guess). She is unable to do anything 由 herself besides cooking and cleaning. She cannot drive. She cannot walk leisurely without getting herself into trouble. She surely cannot defend herself from even the tiniest paper cut. What does she do all day? She happily cooks and cleans for her father, who sits on the 长椅, 沙发 drinking beer, cleaning a gun, watching football. May I ask how this is not anti-feminist? Stephenie Meyer seems intent on saying, “Bella is feminist because she has a choice.” I beg to differ. Bella does not have a choice. Edward and/or Jacob force(s) her into things. All Edward has to do is bat his “liquid topaz” eyes at her, and she feels obligated to do whatever she is told. Often times, he outsmarts her in order to get her to do what she wants. Sometimes, he has to physically enforce it (this is called abuse). Times like this include:
-Removing the engine from her truck to prevent her from seeing Jacob just because he is jealous (he actually admits it later on, so don't go on about how “but he's an immature werewolf!” If he admits it himself, it's pretty much proven already)
-Forcing painkillers on her in the hospital when she clearly does not want them just to shut her up
-Bribes Alice into kidnapping Bella to prevent her from seeing Jacob
-Literally dragging her to his car 由 the back of her jacket, and threatening that if she tries to escape, he'll only drag her back (forcing her to let him drive her home)



Edward is hot! Harry is a nerd!
A character being good looking does not make one book better than another. James Potter is better looking than Charlie, does that make Harry Potter better? Lily is better looking than Renee, does that make Harry Potter better? Luna is better looking than Angela, does that make Harry Potter better? (I do believe Harry Potter is better, but for different reasons) Character appearances are not what makes a character so great. It's the personality that counts. Edward's personality is not something to brag about; stalkerish, abusive, creepy, arrogant, rude, cowardly, selfish, overly angsty, and his intelligence only comes from 阅读 other people's minds because he doesn't have any of his own. We 爱情 Harry for his personality, not his looks (though his looks, while not amazingly handsome, aren't quite bad either. He looks passable, at least). His personality, though... now that is hot. He is extremely brave, loyal, good hearted, caring, slightly mischievous, selfless, passionate, loving and perfectly protective (not overly, but just the right amount). He has his flaws, but we 爱情 those parts of him too! They are what make him Harry!

Also, why do people believe Harry is a nerd? Is it because he wears glasses?

What do 你 think of the fact that he is The Chosen One, he defeated Voldemort as an infant and as a 17 年 old, he is the start of the Quidditch team (and one of the best players in the school), he has saved everyone's butt's many times over, he won The Triwizard Tournament, etc. How is any of this nerdy? He isn't a book worm 或者 anything, in fact, quite the contrary (Hermione is not a nerd either; she's too know-it-all-ish to be a nerd. But I 爱情 that girl anyway for many other reasons. Flaws are very good for character development). He is defiant to the teachers he doesn't like. He actually once got himself kicked off the Quidditch team (along with 费雷德 and George) for beating up Draco when he was particularly angry with that boy (of course, it was Umbridge who kicked him off, so he got right back on the team quickly enough). Harry killed a Basilisk with Gryffindor's Sword, helped Sirius escape from Azkaban's dementors, and taught a whole club of students how to defend themselves (boys AND girls). He 偷了 an egg from a dragon as well. He is known for having a disregard towards the rules. On 最佳, 返回页首 of all of that, he has many girls all over him. What about the 爱情 potions being smuggled to him? Cho was his first official girlfriend, but girls were looking to impress him long before that. Then he ends up with Ginny Weasley; the most desired girl in the entire school. The thing is, he actually loves her with all his heart. He's not just with her because he's the cool guy. He really, truly loves her.

How is that nerdy?

Please, feel free to debate! I'll be polite to you, and I won't judge you... as long as 你 are polite to me and don't call me an idiot 或者 anything. Thank 你 for 阅读 this! (If 你 actually made it all the way through... it's really long, 哈哈 :D)
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Rumors had been circuiting around the internet about this screening, but confirmation that it was Harry Potter didn't come until just before the film started. Since this was a working cut of the film, many effects and scenes were not finished. At least 50% of the special effects were still in the CGI rendering stage, and green screens were visible throughout the film. Also,...
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It was 8.30 am. A 17 年 old girl lay asleep in her bed, a naughty smile on her face. She was obviously dreaming. She put her arms around her 枕头 like she was embracing it. She could dream on forever. But unfortunately…
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Bella groaned and with her head half underneath the sheets she touched for the alarm clock. She opened her eyes a little a checked the hour. The knowledge she gained, made her eyes almost fall out...
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I found this when I randomly looked up "Twihard"

Twihard-
Stupid obsessive people (mostly teenage girls) who are "in 爱情 with fictional characters and wouldn't know a good book if it punched them in the face."

Twihard: "OMG!! Isn't Edward Cullen like so hot??? I'm gonna marry him!!!"

Awesome person who isn't insane: "Dude, he's not real."

Twihard: "How could 你 say that?! I'm in 爱情 with him!!"


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HARRY POTTER PWNS TWILIGHT!!!!!
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Here is a 列表 of flaws found in Twilight:

1. Quileute Tribe - She added imprinting, which isn't even in their history, as a way to manipulate the relationships and have automatic 'true love' . If I was Quileute I would feel insulted.

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2. Basic Biology - It is stated in New Moon that an ancestor of the Quileute tribe transferred his soul to a real 狼 when his earthly body had been destroyed. In Breaking Dawn, Edward reveals that the Quileute tribe are not real werewolves, but shape-shifters. How can it be that this transformation is genetic for the descendants of the tribe?

3. Armed forces...
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We have contacted 潮流粉丝俱乐部 about this issue and are hoping for a reply soon, but in the mean time, we are warning 你 against posting...
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Chapter 1: The unexpected

Have 你 ever had one of those dreams, were 你 try and run fast but 你 just keep getting slower, well that's the dream I was having. This is the most strangest dream I have ever had. I was being chased 由 two wannabe snobs from school, Rachel was the leader from between them, who was tall with black hair tied up in to a curly mini style afro like a thick puff ball at the back of her head. she also had long, sleek legs built for running. Along side her was her...
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Who's your 最喜爱的 character from both series?Why?
Favorite scene from each book in both series? Why?
Favorite book from each series? Why?
What would 你 change in each book? Why?
What did 你 like in each book? Why?
What are the morals 你 learned in each series?
What were the happiest/saddest/scariest/funniest moments in each series?

*WARNING: Long+Spoilers*

My 最喜爱的 character in Twilight would have to be Angelea. She's very smart and
kind and she doesn't judge anyone. Even if she may not agree with her friends,
she's still always there for them.
My 最喜爱的 character in HP would have to...
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