The Game of Thrones rumor mill: unconfirmed episode 8-10 titles 

season 6 have surfaced on the internet today. The titles are unconfirmed and were not published by HBO, so take these with a grain of salt until we’re able to get a confirmation or a denial.

, who gleaned the info from a Sky network website, the following titles cover the rest of the season. They’re in German, naturally, but we’ve translated the listed titles.

Season 6, episode 9:  “Die Schlacht der Bastarde” (“The Battle of the Bastards”)

Season 6, episode 10: “Die Winde des Winters” (“The Winds of Winter”)

We’ve put out feelers to sources to try and verify if these titles are correct. Though Sky networks air

overseas, they are not HBO and don’t automatically have all their information, and overseas networks/providers have made mistakes before. To be blunt, I’d be surprised if these were entirely legit, in part because the titles fall so exactly in line with fan predictions. Often that signifies the provider has picked up on a fake or fan list online and mistaken it for the real thing. It would also be shocking and a little questionable of the show to use the name of George R.R. Martin’s next book before he has even published it. If it turns out to be correct, it certainly is a gutsy move, and hints at alarming things for the season finale.

We’ll keep our ears open and let you know if we hear anything!

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Before people complain that they are ”boring”, the same was said about ”the door”.

I don’t understand complaints about titles and photos being boring Hahahaha

The Comcast synopsis for tomorrow’s episode read “Hannah meets Sam’s family” until yesterday, so mistakes certainly are possible. I like the titles though.

Looks like D&D released “The Winds of Winter” before George 😛

I wondered on the legitimacy and didn’t realise they match exactly with fan speculation.

Is it about time though that the episode titles came out, and “Winds of Winter” is in keeping with last seasons “Dance of Dragons”. I don’t see any issue with this title, winter is here after all. Although it’s a pretty revelatory title IMO.

I don’t care what the names of the episodes are as long as we get the end of the tower of joy sometime this season…pretty please!

While they’re fun, I seriously doubt they’re accurate. “The Battle Of The Bastards” has to be the worst episode name ever. I’d hope D&D would be more clever than that.

I like “No One” and “The Winds of Winter” as titles. “Battle of the Bastards” definitely strikes me as fan-made though…

I’m fine with these being legit. Sounds good to me.

Man, I’m excited, but I also don’t want this season to end so soon. Only five more episodes.

These seem way too obvious, season 6 titles have been pretty ambiguous (e.g., “The Door,” “Book of the Stranger” could’ve meant anything prior to viewing the episodes).

Bastardbowl would have been funnier but I’ll settle for what’s here. I want to see Tormund cop a feel from Brienne and then run out and kill 20 Boltons with his bare hands.

Battle of the Bastards is fine in my book. It’d have been funnier if they named it “Bastardbowl” though.

Bastardbowl would have been funnier but I’ll settle for what’s here. I want to see Tormund cop a feel from Brienne and then run out and kill 20 Boltons with his bare hands.

Dudeeee. I think we’re kindred spirits or something, haha.

I could almost believe the titles for episode 8 & 10, but I seriously doubt D&D would name an episode “the battle of the bastards.” Even though we all know that is the episode in which the battle will take place, usually the titles are more ambiguous.

Howcome, it’s like the most simple stuff ever, some pictures and titles are more interesting than others? Atleast before you’ve seen the episode.

I think “Battle of the Bastards” could be legit. In The Door, the similarity in Jon’s and Ramsay’s status (sons of their fathers) was pointed out by Sansa. I also think Winds of Winter is an awesome title and hints at utterly awesome events in the last episode of this season.

The more I think about these, the more I wonder. Battle of the Bastards is pretty lame (although we know this was being banded around the set at Saintfiled so ya never know).

I’d have gone with “The North remembers” for ep 9.

For me the simple ”Wintefell” title would be the best…just like Blackwater and Hardhome before.

hmm instead of calling it “Battle of Bastards” , I would have called it ” Winterfell is Mine” ..

But then I am just sitting on the couch. Best of luck D&D

I’d bet my salt wives that these are false.

For example – people said the door was boring. What should it have been called ? Hold the door = hodor?

Titles and photos are supposed to tease and be very ambiguous so as to not give anything away. The more ambiguous the more interesting and to me they can release 5 pics each of just a character standing there and it wouldn’t be boring because I still don’t know what to expect

Anyways whatever just wanted to mention that haha

yeah, but i think in English the correct title is more likely to be “Battle of Bastards” or “Battle of the Bastards”

Should have just called it “GET HYPE!!!”

I think it will be a preaty personal fight between Ramsey and Jon. So that’s why they chose this tittle..

“The North Remembers” was the season 2 premiere title, unfortunately.

To me, they are bogus. So far we had 100% mystic titles, no way the last 3 will be so telling. “The Battle of the Bastards”? Seriously?

Blank spaces would have been good enough for me haha

“The North Remembers” was the season 2 premiere title, unfortunately.

LOL, well maybe not. I checked on Wikipedia too but only scrolled back to season 3 🙂

I’m in two minds. If they’re correct I wouldn’t be surprised but on the other hand, usually titles are far more suggestive, so I’m going with fake for now.

To me, they are bogus. So far we had 100% mystic titles, no way the last 3 will be so telling.

How “mystic”? More like vague, but I see your point. Still, Battle of the Bastards is a bit on-the-nose but not that bad IMO. Not like they titled it “Ramsay vs. Jon”.

Hey, finished rowing? Some rest, at last!

Someone remind me where did we first hear the battle of the bastards?Was it a fan thing or we got it from set reports cause I remember some extras allegedly using it and if it was the title of the episode it would make sense.

I knew these episode-titles since Wednesday, but unfortunately I couldn’t post them here, because my comments weren’t comming through somehow. (technical problems with WotW??) But “Niemand” could be also translated into “Nobody”.

This would have been an amazing title.

We’ve been waiting for this for how long? 3 years? and the book readers were waiting for this for like 10 years maybe more

“Blood of Winterfull” or something fancy like that

Ha ha, “mystic” in my understanding of the english word mystic. Which probably doesn’t correspond to everyone else’s understanding!

EDIT: Checked it; ok, so I meant enigmatic. Obscure. Something like that.

Does the title of the episode in anyway affect how you enjoy the content?

D&D like to troll people, even GRRM, so I hope that

Wasn’t that a working title for either TWOW or ADOS at one time? Of course we don’t know for certain that Jon is going to win the battle for Winterfell, though I certainly hope he does.

I also think “The North Remembers” would be a perfect title for episode 9, but I believe that was the season two premiere title. Maybe “The North Remembers: For Real This Time” instead? 😉

This title leans too much towards a Stark win.

Except that it’s the name of the first episode of season 2.

I’d have gone with “The North remembers” for ep 9.

People have often suggested using the titles of the books for individual episodes, which to date the series hasn’t done, so “The Winds of Winter” would be a departure from form if true. It’s a plausible one, though. “No One” is absolutely something I could see as a GOT episode title.

I agree with those who think “The Battle of the Bastards” doesn’t really sound like something they’d use, though.

Melisandre spoiled the result early in the season though

I don’t even see it as trolling tbh (if legit), we had Dance of Dragons last year, and we’d been practically promised TWOW before this season aired. Only for GRRM to miss yet another deadline.. He only has himself to blame (on his own admission).

Sean C.: People have often suggested using the titles of the books for individual episodes, which to date the series hasn’t done, so “The Winds of Winter” would be a departure from form if true

S05E09 : The Dance of Dragons. Not the exact title, but close enough.

The North Remembers is a title of episode 1 season 2. They won’t repeat titles.

Sorry, but there is NO WAY that D&D are actually going to use “The Battle of the Bastards” as an episode title. That’s “Attack of the Clones”-level cheesy. I could see them using “No One” and even “The Winds of Winter”, but the middle one is completely fake.

Why am I more nervous for GOT episode tomorrow than my team’s champions league final Game right now

Apollo: and we’d been practically promised TWOW before this season aired

Where were we promised TWOW before S6 aired?

Looks like D&D released “The Winds of Winter” before George 😛

It looks like three people guessed “No One,” so I wouldn’t say that this first title was all that popular – not more so than the average of the titles we’ve had thus far, that is.

We have one “Battle of Bastards” and eight or nine “Battle of the Bastards,” which is not as many as I thought there would be considering that there were fourteen instances of “Broken Men” and a dozen instances of “Oathbreaker.”

However, we have forty “Winds of Winter,” so that title does stand out as fan-pandering. Still, if the Wall comes tumbling down, I cannot imagine a more appropriate name that wouldn’t be spoilerific. (My spoilerific title would be “The Long Night,” but that sounds like a better title for the Season Seven premiere.)

I remember listing out “The Battle of the Bastards” like so many others as a possible title, but I didn’t think then or do now that they would really go with it. Even if they are, I wouldn’t mind a title so acutely blunt.

If the middle one is completely fake, then all titles are.

Bastardbowl might be funny but also anachronistic, as much as I hate using that word to apply to the language of a fantasy world that just happens to speak Modern English.

zod: Where were we promised TWOW before S6 aired?

“Practically” promised I said. GRRM released a statement at the end of last year saying TWOW won’t be out before S6 but before that he hoped he’d make his summer 2015 deadline, then October deadline, etc etc etc.

Well, from the suggestion there I think the Battle of the Bastards is the best one. Maybe Winterfell. Everything else…. not so much.

I do like “No One” quite a bit as an episode title, however. It’s in the simple yet profound category of titles I’m quite fond of.

I don’t know if these are legitimate; ’tis true, they’re so on-the-mark it begs disbelief. If they are, though… well. Get hype.

What follows is tangential. I don’t post here often, so stuff like this kind of festers in my mind and when I finally get the chance to say it, I end up with a fair bit to say. Anyway, I thought about this because folks were saying “The Winds of Winter” seems off but last season saw “The Dance of Dragons” (as well, Ramsay’s tongue-in-cheek “we’ll leave a feast for crows” name drop, heh).

I want the penultimate and finale episodes for the entire series to be “A Time for Wolves” followed by “A Dream of Spring” — it’d just be fairly nifty for the second-to-last ep to be the bulk of the Great War’s final battle and then the last episode to be about how the heck the survivors will rebuild. This, of course, all follows the basic assumption that that’s how the endgame will even shape up; we don’t know, but my gut tells me it’s the likeliest sendoff.

As fans, many of us are so wrapped in how there are probably only 13 episodes after this season (maybe even a bit less, and maybe [hopefully] a bit more) that we ponder how the rest of David’s and Dan’s version of the story can reach a satisfying conclusion so quickly. It’s a valid question, though for me I also concern myself with what sort of denouement we might see. TV showrunner J Michael Straczynski once said he thinks “after the war” is just as worth telling as “before” and “during”, and I agree, and that’s partly why I’m kind of sad we aren’t getting a full 20 episodes after Season 6. I don’t think we’re going to have time for that, not really, but I do think it’d be swell if we could at least get a finale hour centered on that question. Regardless of how things turn out — short, it should be said, of a full-fledged no-survivors finish (which I don’t think we’re facing) — the remnants of Westerosi society will need to take a good, hard look at how to conduct themselves going forward. I want a piece of that.

So, yeah. “A Time for Wolves” with our intrepid heroes heroically doing heroic things and thwarting the Night’s King; “A Dream of Spring” as the snows thaw and Daenerys, Jon, Sansa, you know, *whoever*, discuss the new world they have brought forth.

How about the ” north remembers for real this time ”

The first place I heard it was from Luka, I think, but I didn’t keep up with fan speculation over the entire year. We knew that Jon and the Wildlings would be in an epic battle against Ramsay and various Northern houses under the Boltons. With both being bastards, it was natural to play on that in the title. And it is also natural to assume that major events might have alliterative names:

And so Bastards and a battle being alliterative, it is natural to call this conflict “The Battle of the Bastards.” Similarly, I think the final battle might be something like “The War of the White Walkers.”

I also think “The North Remembers” would be a perfect title for episode 9, but I believe that was the season two premiere title. Maybe “The North Remembers: For Real This Time” instead?

Said the same thing as you but hadn’t seen your comment hahaha

Absolutely not; it’s just something to talk about and pass time while the husband’s watching the Champions League Final with his pals in the living room.

The episode 9 title seems far too convenient, almost as if they’ve accepted everyone knows a huge battle will be taking place, involving said bastards. If they’re actually legit, of course.

I think we’ll find out the official episode titles after tomorrow’s episode.

Yes. I’m a huge fan of Lost, and their episode titles do enhance my enjoyment. I particularly loved “Tabula Rasa,” “House of the Rising Sun,” “Exodus,” “Through the Looking Glass,” and I could go on and on and on. Most of these titles were so perfect and so full of meaning for each episode that I suspect the titles or at least the themes came first and the plot was developed around the title or theme. GoT, however, seems to do plot first and then titles – or at least that’s my best guess.

Seriously. What if Ramsay sends in 20 good men instead?

It was? I didn’t know that lol. I just thought it would be a good one, imho. Since the Starks sigil is a direwolf, it would make some sense.

Here’s a good episode 9 title; “The Fall of 20 Good Men”

People have often suggested using the titles of the books for individual episodes, which to date the series hasn’t done, so “The Winds of Winter” would be a departure from form if true.

We’ve gotten somewhat close: “The Dance of Dragons” is quite close to ADwD and “You Win or You Die” is the second half of the sentence using “Game of Thrones”: “When you play the game of thrones, you win or you die.” Plus, the entire series is GoT.

“Practically” promised I said. GRRM released a statement at the end of last year sayingTWOW won’t be out before S6 but before that he hoped he’d make his summer 2015 deadline, then October deadline, etc etc etc.

And didn’t George say over and over and over that the show would never pass the books?

The stakes are higher. When you play sports, you win or you lose. When you play the game of thrones, you win or you die. 🙂

Dammit, now I have John Cougar stuck in my head.

Ginevra: And didn’t George say over and over and over that the show would never pass the books?

Exactly. To be fair, I’m sure both he and D&D were convinced the show wouldn’t pass the books when the initial deal was done (2008?), but it was clear to me once S1 aired that he’d never get them out in time.

Nymeria Warrior Queen: Dammit, now I have John Cougar stuck in my head.

All in all, it’s just another brick in the Wall.

When they are gonna introduce us to Ser Twenty of House Goodmen?, can´t wait to see the living fookin legend.

“Battle of the Bastards”???? maybe the sand snakes will return for that episode. Please no.

The battle of the bastards sounds fake asf but if true I ain’t gonna complain.

Edit: “The bastard” would have been cooler, or as someone else has mentioned “Winterfell”

definitely sounds fanmade. Usually the episode titles are a bit smarter.. like “Book of the Stranger” or “Mother’s Mercy”

I never thought “The Battle of the Bastards” predictions were gonna be accurate, I just can’t see it as a title. That being said, I dont think the show would have any problem making Winds of Winter an episode name even without the book being released.

EDIT: Same thing when so many people were predicting “Kingsmoot” to be an episode name, that was never gonna happen.

I thought Ser 20 Goodmen were busy burning Dany’s ships in Meereen.

I can’t see it actually being called ‘Battle of the Bastards’. That just gives so much away.

The battle isn’t a plot twist, they’ve been leading up to it since the very first episode of this season. Hell, they have shots of the battle in the trailers. It’s as obvious as it can be. So why the need for a mysterious/ambiguous title?

While they’re fun, I seriously doubt they’re accurate. “The Battle Of The Bastards” has to be the worst episode name ever. I’d hope D&D would be more clever than that.

But those are terms from the books… The Battle of the Bastards is a fan made term so far.. correct? It isn’t a bad title. It just seems to line too perfectly with fan speculations.

I also doubt they would pick such a spoilery episode title in case it leaked before Jon came back (unless it was just recently named)

Maybe the foreign titles aren’t going to be direct translations of the English ones?

HelloThere: The Battle of the Bastards is a fan made term so far.. correct?

No, it isn’t. It was reportedly the term used by the crew during filming.

He’s called Sir Twenty of House Goodmen! Loyal bannerman to the boltons! Him and shirtless Ramsay together are unstoppable.

For those wondering about why people care about episode titles, for me I like speculating (and reading the speculation of others) based on what the titles are. Whether a title has an impact on my enjoyment of the episode, well, it certainly doesn’t negatively impact my enjoyment, but it can enrich it, albeit in a small way, in retrospect. Mostly, though, for me, it’s about the fun speculating what they could indicate before the episode airs. Sure, some of them are pretty clear, like the title for episode 7 (and, OMG, I can’t wait!!!), but even though it’s pretty certain there’s one thing we will get in that episode, it could point to other things, too.

from last season finale, badass af. Can´t wait to see him in battle.

Well, if ‘No One’ really is a title, I got one right…thought it would have been earlier in the season though; I had it as episode 06-03.

‘Battle of The Bastards’…um, that’s got me skeptical. If it really is the title of 06-09, others here are right; it will be the worst title of any episode.

I still think 06-09 will either be ‘Winterfell’ or ‘The Bastard of Winterfell’.

06-10…very well might be ‘Winds of Winter’, but I’m still holding out for what I predicted: ‘Night Fall’…

There is something about a really poignant episode title that enhances it for me. Like “Mother’s Mercy”

For those wondering about why people care about episode titles, for me I like speculating (and reading the speculation of others) based on what the titles are.

For those people who care nothing about episode titles, why are you in here, again?

Fan speculation was spot on using the last episode title, right? Wow. “The Door” was so much more spoilery than I would have guessed.

Battle of the Bastards sounds alright. Reminds me of when people didn’t like “The Mountain and the Viper”, but I see no problem with simple names. There’s been quite a few in the past that were very obvious. “Fire and Blood” “Blackwater” “Rains of Castamere” “Hardhome” “The Lion and the Rose”. None of them require much genius to sort out.

Winds of Winter is obviously a great title, have to give Martin credit for that.

I put little stock into episode names anymore. It was helpful before, now that we are all but past the books it’s not as predictable.

Just replace one word in each title with hype and w’ere good 😉

Ginevra: All in all, it’s just another brick in the Wall.

Will the White Walkers chant “Tear Down the Wall”?

Apollo: To be fair, I’m sure both he and D&D were convinced the show wouldn’t pass the books when the initial deal was done (2008?), but it was clear to me once S1 aired that he’d never get them out in time.

Well, even then, GRRM stated that he thought that he would be able to get back to a book ever 2-3 years. If he had been able to do that, then Spring would be coming out in the next 12 months if it was not already out.

At this point, I will be surprised if Winter gets out before the series ends. GRRM really has become like that grad student who just never finishes his effin’ dissertation….

You think Winterfell of Bastard of Winterfell would be better? lol You think TBoTB is worse than, say, Home or The Door?

If it really is “The Battle of the Bastards” we will not get the end of the ToJ until either that episode or episode 10. I really hope that it ends with Bran finding out that Rhegar and Lyanna were married under a heart tree and that way the episode ends with us knowing that Jon was never a bastard but instead is the heir to the throne.

I think this is why they had Sansa marry Tyrion under the Faith of the Seven (Rhegar and Elia) and Ramsey under the Old Gods (Rhegar and Lyanna), to serve as precident for the reveal.

Well, American Football fans invented that term more than 50 years ago: and we know what a big football fan GRRM is!

Joey: I think this is why they had Sansa marry Tyrion under the Faith of the Seven (Rhegar and Elia) and Ramsey under the Old Gods (Rhegar and Lyanna), to serve as precident for the reveal.

There are dozens of more ways they could do it that viewers would instantly recognize that would work. Wedding vows have a general appearance to them: if they did do it under a weirwood tree, then we would not have needed Sansa’s 2nd wedding to recognize it.

But that really begs the most important question: what will Sansa do for her third wedding?!?!?

Those could be real translated titles. Translations aren’t always accurate and some phrases just can’t be directly translated.

I remember when Arnold’s The Running Man came and got the translated title of “Run of die”. That was fine.

But then came Total Recall and it was translated as “Remember or die” 🙂 See a pattern, lol?

I very much doubt these are real. ‘The Battle of the Bastards’ was coined by fans IIRC and I think it sounds way too silly to be a legit title. I could buy the other two, though ‘The Winds of Winter’ is also quite obvious.

I would say Game of Thrones has much better episode titles than Lost generally. You had a fair few of cheesy or boring ones like “…And Found”, “The Last Recruit”. And like half of the titles were generic one word titles: “Special”, “Solitary”, “Outlaws”, “316”, “Recon”, “S.O.S” and so on.

I meant that she is legitimately married to both of them under two different faiths, therefore Jon could be the legitimate heir and not a bastard if Rhegar also married under the two different faiths. If she had a son with Tyrion he could claim the throne, if she has a son with Ramsay he would be the heir to Winterfel.

It would also be shocking and a little questionable of the show to use the name of George R.R. Martin’s next book before he has even published it.

Why? This season is an adaptation of that work, after all!

I doubt Rhaegar and Lyanna were married, and even if they were… How is that gonna work…. Is Jon just gonna find some long lost marriage certificate and prove this? lol

Yeah…but they already majorly trolled GRRM (and his devotees) with

“I feel the winds of winter as they lick across the land.”

from the farcical theatre troupe in ep5. Oh well, even though I am not handling this spoilery shit well, troll on, D&D…GRRM deserves it.

Oh! No, Sansa was only able to “legitimately” marry Ramsay because her marriage to Tyrion never was consummated: and therefore that marriage could be declared annulled. (This comes up in both media.) It was not a ticket to polyandry for Sansa. But that is why the Boltons were concerned about whether Sansa was still a virgin. Well, that, and men always want virgin wives and daughters in law as a way to make sure that any child from her womb can only be his.

If Rhaegar married Lyanna, then he must have “set aside” (divorced) Elia first. Of course, we now have the problem of how this could have been done in a way that can be proven without there having been a paper trail.

If I were them, I would call episode 9 “Snowfall”.

I don’t care what the names of the episodes are as long as we get the end of the tower of joy sometime this season…pretty please!

I agree. I don’t give two shits what titles the episodes will be. It beats me why there is so much speculation and hype over GoT episode titles. Just enjoy S6 as it comes as when episode 10 has been aired, its a bloody long wait to Season 7 !

I too hope at some point during this season, the big question of: “Who was Jon Snow’s mother?” will finally be answered 😉

Is that really “Trolling” him? I know that I am dating myself here, but once upon a time, “trolling” was reserved only for that guy who made everything about how great Jesus was and how the rest of us were damned. Which was, you know, very pertinent to baseball or SciFi or whatever…. Now it seems to be a catch-all word for so many things that I don’t know what people mean. But I certainly do not see it as belittling or demeaning GRRM at all.

I guess that I just don’t buy into this “spoiling” concept. To me, it’s like people who say that they don’t want to know the sex of a fetus because they want it to be a surprise. Well, guess what: it’s an (approximately) 50:50 surprise whether you learn it 4 months after conception or 9 months after! It’s the same thing here: I am interested in the story and the general plot. Whether I read it or watch it is besides the point: one medium or the other, I will get the important stuff for a first time.

Besides, and as we have discussed before, I suspect that the TV series will be the only time we get the important Dream material, anyway.

Sou: 😂😂😂 Or “The North really remembers”

By the way, HB,, I have not caught you since last episode! So, this revelation about the Walkers was huge (if slightly lost in the Hodor Incident). They are much more a trope from Science Fiction than from Fantasy (think Cylons or Daleks in TV terms.) It also is riffing on our own history quite a bit.

We’ve discussed before how all of this got started and how all of the major players relate to each other. So, if the Children are as wise and clever as humans are, then they will look at this colossal back-firing mistake of creating the Walkers and think: “The best way to control this pest we’ve introduced is…. !lightbulb! … create a new control predator to take them down!!!!”

Do you think it possible that we’ll learn that Azor Ahai somehow (or somehow became) that instrument of “corrective” destruction? (As you know, I’ve suspected that R’hllor is what is left of AA: and I’m wondering if we’ve just gotten a small taste of how.)

The North Remembered All Along but Just Got Around to Caring….

Black Raven: I too hope at some point during this season, the big question of: “Who was Jon Snow’s mother?” will finally be answered

Did we ever learn who they cast to play Ashara Dayne, then?

Wimsey: Will the White Walkers chant “Tear Down the Wall”?

Bran the Builder built a great wall; Bran the Night’s King made it all fall;

Only Bran the Seer could see the Night’s end.

I think it is a definite jab, using a phrase like that out of the blue with no other context than the pending novel with no scheduled due date.

I agree that most reveals in the show are tip of the iceberg stuff. As you know, I am very fond of the back stories and minor details that enrich this exceptional tale. Back in 2011/2012, I wanted “books before film” and I chanted it often on the boards, but obviously the game has shifted for the comparative analysts out there. I wonder if Neal Gaiman still stands behind his “not your bitch” comments given the recent slew of reveals about (possible) canon.

Personally, at this point I hope one of the titles of the upcoming episodes is

If it really is “The Battle of the Bastards” we will not get the end of the ToJ until either that episode or episode 10.

I see your point! We need Jon to stay a bastard through Episode 9 for the title to stay relevant, assuming the title is correct. I do think we can still see the ToJ and Baby Jon as the son of Lyanna and Rhaegar in Episode 6 (tomorrow!) without establishing the marriage and thus the legitimacy of Jon, saving both of these reveals until Episode 10.

I would say Game of Thrones has much better episode titles than Lost generally. You had a fair few of cheesy or boring ones like “…And Found”, “The Last Recruit”. And like half of the titles were generic one word titles: “Special”, “Solitary”, “Outlaws”, “316”, “Recon”, “S.O.S” and so on.

To be honest, I don’t know that George will recognize this impending conflict is known as “The Battle of the Bastards” and will be known as such in the history of Westeros. D&D could very well go with the fan name for the battle everyone assumed would happen and use it as the title. Does that make it better or worse? I’m okay with using it but I’d have gone with something a little more poetic, like “Snows of Winter” that also ties in with the winds of winter, or like what Seriano mentioned above, “Snowfall.”

The battle of the bastards isn’t ideal because Ramsay isn’t a bastard anymore.

Winterfell should be the penultimate episode of the series before a dream of spring.

A time for wolves should come before both when the starks start kicking some tail.

If winterfell is where winter actually fell during the long night then I think it will likely happen again…and a stark will be a focal point for that happening.

Hodors Bastard: I think it is a definite jab, using a phrase like that out of the blue with no other context than the pending novel with no scheduled due date.

But if (as so many of us expect) this is when the Walkers “break on through to the other side” (to sort riff on a different band from the 1960’s that Hodor loved), then it would seem that this is a perfect title.

Hodors Bastard: I wonder if Neal Gaiman still stands behind his “not your bitch” comments given the recent slew of reveals about (possible) canon.

Possibly! However, Gaiman never has worried about “canon”: his stories are always completely self-contained, and nobody would read them for “world-building.”

But, then, that is also why none of this bothers me. Neither show nor books are “canon” to me: as GRRM himself often tells people, the answer to “how many husbands/children did Scarlett O’Hare have?” is not the one in the book or in the movie: she never existed and thus never had kids.

I am, however, very interested in the story, and I’ve long thought that the resolution is going to involve heartbreaking choices for Jon and Daeny (and possibly Tyrion, Bran & Arya). What I like about the Walker reveal is that one could envision many (many!) such possibilities now that we know that they, themselves, are pawns created in response to an “evil” rather than out of some “evil.”

(And, one way or another, I’d like to see the conclusion of this story. At this point, I really do not care if it’s TV, book or a series of emails.)

Hodors Bastard:Personally, at this point I hope one of the titles of the upcoming episodes is R+L=J+M.

Ginevra: I do think we can still see the ToJ and Baby Jon as the son of Lyanna and Rhaegar in Episode 6 (tomorrow!)

I cannot wait to see an infant with long flowing locks of curly black hair and a brooding glower. (Or maybe just gas.)

I started with John Cougar Mellencamp and then diversified. “I am vast. I contain multitudes.”

It’d be really great if the final episode ever is titled “A dream of Spring “.

Wimsey: We’ve discussed before how all of this got started and how all of the major players relate to each other.

I am rather thrilled that we were dancing close to the edge of this CotF/WW reveal with various conjectures regarding the misrepresentation of “evil” in the far north and the truth behind the WW encroachments.

I hope the CotF’s choice for NK is an interesting story as well (I was wondering if he was an original Stark). It also puts a whole new twist on the power of obsidian and valyrian steel. Were dragons in the picture in Westeros back then? Why are the CotF-created Frankensteins susceptible to dragon-related material? The end-game certainly can’t be that simple, can it?

That last episode contained so many debatable aspects regarding canon, it was almost overwhelming…even during my third viewing! Furthermore, LF’s words to Sansa in the episode (and to SweetRobin in the prev episode) have me rethinking possible LF manipulation scenarios as well, from bolstering ideas that he did indeed know about Ramsay beforehand to rehashing ideas that he may be the pink letter author. Or was it really the showrunner’s intent to show cracks in the superficial armor of

Hardly a dull moment this season….and I am just realizing how spoiled I was during past seasons with handfuls of canon milestones to debate and filibuster about… 🙂

Wouldn’t it be funny if that in part meant the Sand Snakes killing Tommen? It would probably be Asia Spice, as she hasn’t personally murdered as many innocent people as her sisters.

Im actually of the oppinion that “The Battle of The Bastards” might never happen in the books, and that the writers have chosen to off Stannis early in order to have Jon and Sansa head the battle at Winterfell. We know in the books that TWOW starts with a massive battle between Stannis and the Boltons. I doubt GRRM would have a massive battle @ Winterfell followed by Stannis loosing, and then have another massive battle with Jon.

I think Stannis wins in the book and dies later in another situation.

The battle of the bastards isn’t ideal because Ramsay isn’t a bastard anymore.

In the literal sense, he is. No piece of paper can change that. Ramsay’s questionable birthright, despite the legitimization, weakens his claim as lord and warden.

E9’s title doesn’t have to be ambiguous because the episodes before it will show them preparing for battle. The audience will know it’s coming.

Ginevra: I do think we can still see the ToJ and Baby Jon as the son of Lyanna and Rhaegar in Episode 6 (tomorrow!) without establishing the marriage and thus the legitimacy of Jon, saving both of these reveals until Episode 10.

I was wondering what we’d get in episode 6 if we didn’t get a big reveal until episode 10, but your suggestion works for me. I still don’t know how the legitimacy of Jon will be established, in other words, what evidence there will be of the marriage, but I’ve little doubt they did, indeed, get married. Sure, Rhaegar was already married to Elia, but however long ago it may have happened, there is precedent for Targaryen polygamy.

Ramsay’s still a bastard because he was legitimised by another illegitimate bastard. It’s void.

It might be true but D&D usualy goes for more vague titles and this one is just too easy. Bastards instead of The Battle of Bastards and I would buy this one.

I think we’ll see it likely in the finale, the whole reveal. If Jon is legitimate or not is irrelevant now. All the people concerned are dead, no proof or likely to be destroyed and army of zombies coming to them.

I agree. The Starks will return to Winterfell in TWoW but it wont be Jon and Sansa rallying the north to fight Ramsay for it.

Book Speculation: its been hinted that Sansa will be victim of kidnapping (someone taking her to Cersie for reward). That will serve to get her out of the Vale but she escapes (maybe helped/rescued by Brienne and Pod) and heads north leading to reunion with Jon (which I believe will happen in the books) and taking her place in the Northern plot line, which I think she will be important part of.

so The Battle of The Bastards works for me as title…and love Winds of Winter for finale title because that SHOULD be the next new GOT stuff we get (looking at you GRRM) and should be decent amount of what we get in season 7

You think Winterfell of Bastard of Winterfell would be better? lol

You think TBoTB is worse than, say, Home or The Door?

When you’ve got nothing of value to add to the conversation, but desperately crave attention. So sad…

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