迪士尼公主 Best DP movie moral. FINAL DAY! Pick your LEAST favorite. Elimination 由 comments.

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Don't judge a book 由 its cover! (Beauty and the Beast)
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Take responsibility for your actions! (Brave)
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 reflection11 posted 一年多以前
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reflection11 picked Don't judge a book 由 its cover! (Beauty and the Beast):
Hooray! Final day! Please comment<33
This one is more overplayed and not done as well in the film. i hope Brave win...
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ntmfan0707 picked Take responsibility for your actions! (Brave):
I prefer the other moral.
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wavesurf picked Don't judge a book 由 its cover! (Beauty and the Beast):
Brave's moral holds true for why Adam lost his humanity and became "the beast." Had Adam exercised self-control and taken responsibility for his actions by being kind to the old woman, he would not have been cursed in the first place.

Brave's is the better moral, because it is applicable to B and the Beast.
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dancing_dear picked Don't judge a book 由 its cover! (Beauty and the Beast):
Agreed ^
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Beastlysoul25 picked Take responsibility for your actions! (Brave):
I also prefer the other moral
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scarletunicorn picked Don't judge a book 由 its cover! (Beauty and the Beast):
Both are good.
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AudreyFreak picked Don't judge a book 由 its cover! (Beauty and the Beast):
Brave's is underrated considering how important it is.
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NCISLuverjk93 picked Don't judge a book 由 its cover! (Beauty and the Beast):
Both are incredibly important, but I feel like Brave's is moreso.
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UnholyNoise picked Don't judge a book 由 its cover! (Beauty and the Beast):
Kinda trite. I think Merida's lesson is much more novel for a DP movie. People love to rag on the modern princesses, but these are the first as a group to have their imperfections become major plot points, and to be shown owning and fixing their screwups.
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Sparklefairy375 picked Don't judge a book 由 its cover! (Beauty and the Beast):
Brave's moral message sounds more good and realistic.
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truth76 picked Don't judge a book 由 its cover! (Beauty and the Beast):
This is an old moral said by everyone. The other one is a new one that is really important for us to know and apply.
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wavesurf picked Don't judge a book 由 its cover! (Beauty and the Beast):
@Unholynoise: The Moderns are not the first group of DPs to be shown "owning and fixing" their problems. No matter how much you may hate the Renaissance girls, and find all of their messages/morals trite because of "age"---those characters did "own and fix" their problems first, and they preceded the Moderns in terms of tackling their issues. The Renaissance girls and Classic girls were also less OPENLY NASTY in their personalities. I think the only really respectful DP out of the whole Modern Princess gang is Rapunzel, because she is so sweet-tempered and resourceful, like Ariel and Cindy. The rest tend to be lackluster personalities: too rash, silly, yelling, and punching people ( Anna), mean and self-righteous ( Tiana), rude and self-serving (Merida), and reserved and cowardly (Elsa). "Some" of these Modern Princesses change, but all of them ( save Merida) CHANGE FAR LESS as characters by the end of their respective films.

Just because we are removing Beauty and the Beast from the final round here, does not mean that Modern morals somehow now supersede older ones. They don't. If Brave had not showed us a character who changed more realistically than all the other Modern DPs, then Brave would have been eliminated in the first several rounds of this moral poll countdown just as all the other Modern DP movies were for their "morals."

Also, some of the morals listed here, were not really the "morals" of the films, as I understood them. Some were too vague, because the movie itself fell into "the vague" category, and pulling a single moral out of it was just hard.
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DisneyPrincess3 picked Take responsibility for your actions! (Brave):
Beauty and the Beast's moral is a better moral in my opinion because it tells you not to judge people on first impressions and when you don't know the person very well so as not to judge before you really get to know them as a person.
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UnholyNoise picked Don't judge a book 由 its cover! (Beauty and the Beast):
@wavesurf: i feel like we are always going to be at odds with each other over this issue -- i've explained elsewhere that the modern DPs are actually called out in-universe on their screwups (without making the person doing the calling out seem like a jerk for doing it -- like you're supposed to be on Kristoff's side when he tells Anna she's nuts for marrying a total stranger, etc) and I've explained how have their screwups highlighted as a major plot point -- even in this comment you really haven't proven otherwise, you're just ragging on their personalities, which is a different issue altogether.. so i'm not going to bother debating it further with you.

But I would like to mention that I never once said I hated any DPs, as individuals or as a group. I don't even hate Snow, who is at the very bottom of my list. And my comment about the morals being trite was clearly only meant for BaTB. If you could make your points without strawmanning me and putting words in my mouth, that would be great. :)
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wavesurf picked Don't judge a book 由 its cover! (Beauty and the Beast):
@UN: I'm sorry, if you feel that I put words in your mouth that you did not say. But your comment was slamming the rest of the Renaissance girls yet again. It was the same " they are not being called out on their flaws," while the Moderns are... Actually, this isn't true. Ariel got in big trouble for having believed Ursula and it showed when King Triton didn't know what to do to help her out, really; Pocahontas got called out when she did not make more of an effort to talk to the whole tribe council elders about making peace, not just her dad: it got Kocoum killed, John imprisoned awaiting death, and flat out war about to begin... I can't tell you the number of times Mulan got "called out" for being tardy, for cheating with notes on her arm ( which definitely worked against her with the matchmaker), and for "sustaining a lie" in the whole of bootcamp; not even Captain Li Shang...knew who she was. Mulan would have been beheaded had Shang not decided that mercy was more important at the moment, than meeting out quick punishments and making an example for all. Belle gets called out by Adam for being in the West Wing when she was expressly told not to be there... and nearly gets mauled to death by wolves for her foolish decision. I could list even more examples...of Renaissance princesses being "called out" on their mistakes, and being perfectly wrong for doing what they did!

Obviously, we are not going to agree that the Moderns are the only Disney Princess film era to show princesses at fault, and has them called out on their bad behavior. I wish, more people would not lump the Renaissance into a basket with the Classics, calling these movies overrated since they aren't novel anymore, which is what I get on the internet and off the internet a lot. I'm not going to praise the Moderns, nor Kristoff, for being "the obvious man" in a situation that already was way absurd before he popped up like a daisy to say so. He just made me even more irritated for regurgitating the obvious, like "I was retarded" for not picking up on this already or something...



As for something being called "trite," that's definitely a matter of opinion. I always hesitate to blow something off as trite, so thank you for clarifying "which" Renaissance moral was trite. I'm sorry, but I've read your comments on the wall and in other articles before. It's hard to conclude what you're thinking except for a vague, repetitive dislike of an era --- you kept saying the Renaissance "was overrated" multiple times. I agree that not all can connect to the Renaissance DPs, just as I have "some trouble" finding reasons to like/enjoy the Moderns ( which I am very forthcoming in explaining ad infinitum; yes, their personalities are constantly borderline annoying, and with the whole of the plot constantly revolving around their "flaws," everything drags on and on). But I do find it a disservice to say that each of the Renaissance girls' flaws/problems aren't integral parts of the main plot-lines in their movies, when they ARE....and to say that these girls aren't called out on their mistakes...simply ISN'T TRUE, since watching the movies over and over again proves that such a generalization is not factual. So, that's where we differ yet again. I respect you, but I am not putting up a straw-man argument. I'm saying "something being overrated is highly subjective" and that it is a false generalization to claim the Moderns are the "only group" that were called out on their mistakes/screwups. The movies themselves say otherwise.
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mariana1 picked Take responsibility for your actions! (Brave):
I prefer the other moral
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anaswill picked Don't judge a book 由 its cover! (Beauty and the Beast):
You should always take responsibility for your actions, whereas sometimes you can judge a book by it's cover.
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DIAMELA picked Don't judge a book 由 its cover! (Beauty and the Beast):
I prefer the moral of Brave
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anukriti2409 picked Take responsibility for your actions! (Brave):
although both morals are true and need to be learnt and adopted for better. i feel strongly that world needs much more love than open-hearted people that just. People too often reject others, dont appreciate them enough, criticize too critically. I think if more people to become loving than just, half the hatred would go on its own.
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