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As asteriamalfoy recently reported on the club wall, it appears that Moana will soon become the newest member of the 迪士尼 Princess lineup. The club's reception to the news is a mixed bag, which is the latest example of how the general 潮流粉丝俱乐部 opinion (namely, this club's opinion) doesn't always match that of the internet. It's interesting why that is, and I will attempt to find the reason here.

Before going forward, be aware that everything that I consider an "opinion" of 潮流粉丝俱乐部 and/or the internet is a generalization. True, there are some users on both this website and the rest of the worldwide web who are in their respective minorities. This is merely a breakdown of how I see it and my attempt to get to the root of the issue -- why is Moana beloved in some places, but not in others? Time to find out.

The Difference of Opinion
I find that on Youtube, Disney-related sites (such as "Oh My Disney"), and other sites (Buzzfeed and the like), Moana is a well-liked character. The common reasons people like her from what I've seen are:

• She's responsible; even though she wants to explore the ocean, she does what's right and chooses to lead her people. And she enjoys it, too!
• She's self-reliant; she doesn't need to be constantly saved, and she can save the 日 pretty much on her own.
• On a related note, she "doesn't need a man."
• On a separate related note, she's quick-thinking and resourceful, 或者 what some people call "badass."
• She doesn't have the traditional look of a 迪士尼 Princess, i.e. no formal 袍, 礼服 and different body type. This gives her a new and perhaps 更多 realistic look.
• She renounces the princess name.



Then 你 check out the DP club on Fanpop, and 你 find that generally, Moana is not particularly loved, for reasons including:

• She has little to no flaws.
• She doesn't have much of a personality.
• She's just a mish-mash of the princesses who came before her -- nothing new.
• She renounces the princess name.

That's quite a contrast in opinion, and maybe a little surprising that a place dedicated to the DPs generally doesn't take too kindly to her. I think I've discovered why this contrast exists, though.

The 来源 of the Difference
Perhaps this contrast is because people that 你 find elsewhere on the internet have a different set of character traits/qualities that they value than the ones on this club. From what I understand, the general internet crowd values 迪士尼 Princesses and heroines who:

• Add something new to the lineup
• Are strong and can work independently
• Are determined and don't give up
• Are admirable

On this club, I think we have a different set of values for DPs. We like those who:

• Add something new to the lineup
• Are realistic and/or relatable
• Stand for something positive regarding princess-hood, femininity, etc. without feeling forced 或者 too "in your face"
• Respect the DP franchise

Regarding the first bullet point -- I believe both sides like it when a princess/heroine adds something to the lineup, but it is seen in different ways. The internet seems to like how Moana invokes new positive qualities such as the desire and willingness to lead, which, let's be honest, hasn't been done with a DP before, at least not explicitly. I theorize that users on this club, including myself, consider all of the positive qualities of the character and how those stack up against the existing DPs, not just the new ones. For example, action-packed (Rapunzel), self-doubt (Pocahontas, Mulan), determined (Ariel), outspoken (Merida), and funny (Rapunzel, Anna) are all traits that we've seen in other princesses and heroines. The number of familiar traits can make the actual new traits seem like not enough.

However, I think the above argument is only a tiny part of why the 潮流粉丝俱乐部 opinion is 更多 critical. The remaining bullet points are key. As stated, Moana does 显示 a desire and willingness to lead her people, which would fit the desired element of saying something positive about princess-hood (er, leader-hood, 或者 how about just leadership). Is it in your face? I'm going to lean towards "no," but -- now I'm going to bring my own opinion into the mix -- it's one of the reasons I have difficulty latching onto her character. Despite Moana having this very positive quality going for her, she doesn't feel realistic to me. Her turn-around from wanting to sail the seas to being perfectly content staying and leading is just too sudden. With few flaws to balance it out, she comes across as a little too perfect to me. Perhaps this lack of realism and relatability is what others dislike, too.

It's often 说 that a strong character is one who works through their flaws; ergo, a strong female character is one who works through her flaws. Moana might have flaws, but maybe they don't get the focus they need to make us think, "Oh yeah, she overcame that flaw, achieved her goals, and learned something from this adventure." If that's the case, then the positive femininity thing doesn't really work. It's almost too positive, 或者 impossibly positive. We need something 更多 convincing if the takeaway is that a girl/lady/woman can achieve great things.



The biggest issue that Fanpoppers have with Moana comes from this line: "First off, I'm not a princess. I'm the daughter of the chief." This statement has not been well-received because for some, it implies that Moana is disrespecting the 迪士尼 Princess name. I shared that opinion too at one point. It may just be 迪士尼 poking fun at itself, but it can rub 粉丝 the wrong way. If this character who seemingly fits the DP mold can't appreciate the leading ladies who came before her...well, how the heck are we supposed to like her? Contrast this with the general internet's opinion, where people take it to mean that Moana doesn't have to be bogged down 由 the 标题 of princess; one can be a strong character without having a royal 标题 或者 other high status. Or, maybe people like it because it detaches her from the princess stereotype that they can't stand.

The 更多 I think about it, the 更多 I think that line is a double-edged sword. On one hand, it can be perceived as, "Oh yeah, 你 don't need to be a princess to save the 日 或者 to be someone important 或者 worthwhile." On the other hand, one can perceive it as Moana being better than a princess, which can be taken as "Oh, 你 think you're better than the 迪士尼 Princesses, is that right?" 或者 "Yeah, the princess 标题 is just that -- a title. Not all heroines have to be princesses." Well, maybe there's a better message here. Instead of having your character say they're not a princess, why not embrace their princess-ness (or the equivalent -- daughter of a chief would be an equivalent), and then 显示 us that 说 character is a good, strong character? You'd be broadening your own definition of princesses to mean any good-natured, strong-willed female, which is exactly what the DP franchise is trying to do now with their 最近的 视频 and slogan. Then, all of the princesses can be seen in a new and positive light.



Conclusions
Not to be too redundant, but I do believe that Moana's reception here versus on the rest of the internet boils down to what people want and like to see in 迪士尼 heroines, as well as how they interpret certain aspects of the character (or lines of dialogue, as discussed above). I think this is also the reason why 粉丝 can have such opposing 查看 on other characters, like Ariel 或者 Elsa. It can also be why some characters are sometimes seen favorably here, like the early princesses, but not much elsewhere. It all has to do with the specific set of traits we value. Moana's prospective introduction to the lineup brought this...for lack of a better term, "issue," to the spotlight, for me at least. Perhaps discussions like these will change some perceptions of characters for the better, even if just slightly, if people recognize the exact qualities that are being valued 由 other fans.
Which 迪士尼 Princess got to live in the most beautiful house? Which ruled the hearts of 粉丝 - the cottages, mansions 或者 humble homes?
Fans have voted and results are in! Here's a look how 粉丝 ranked the DP homes.

12. Aladdin's home:
Most 粉丝 understood that this barely counted as a home, but 更多 like a shelter to rest at night. It barely had anything, not even a door. Even though it had a great view, beautiful it surely wasn't.




anukriti2409: This is really an abandoned place, which 阿拉丁 uses for shelter. It's really downtrodden, with no furniture 或者 gate 或者 windows 或者 curtains. It's...
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 1. Sparkly dress
1. Sparkly dress
We now begin a new era of 迪士尼 the Renaissance. 迪士尼 Princesses are coming in fast and we start with Ariel. I will not be including her as a Mermaid simply because this is her as a woman in a dress not with a tail on. If I was to rate her as a mermaid it would be 10 but as a human 0. I will also not involve her night wear.

1. Sparkly dress
Ariel is now a human she walks from under the sea to meet prince Eric, but unable to speak for now. Her dress made 由 Triton is a sparkly silver dress with no accessories on her. It may be nice evening but for me it's missing something attention seeking...
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 1. Working dress
1. Working dress
Hi there, My 下一个 princess will be Cinderella. She has a few 更多 outfits than snow white so we will be having 更多 information today.

1. Working dress
I must begin 由 saying it's not a dress It's just a blue 最佳, 返回页首 with a brown like vest on, brown skirt, white 围裙 with brown flat plump shoes. Like snow whites it's not an outfit 你 would go on a 日期 with 或者 meet a handsome prince but for a worker then its the best for the job. 5/10

2. Ball dress A
Those step sisters just can't stand her and her dress as it was quickly destroyed. The dress is a 粉, 粉色 mainly with a white lower section, 粉, 粉色 heels...
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Hello again everyone! Here we are with the 列表 of best brown outfits. There are a few of them among the DPs, and I enjoyed this countdown because these outfits so rarely get the spotlight. Most of them are overshadowed 由 other outfits the characters wear. Hope 你 enjoyed it!

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6. Snow White's brown and white dress

I was kind of sad to see this dress be the first eliminated, although I expected as much. I'm rather fond of this dress for some reason. I'm not sure why. I actually like it better than her iconic dress - I think the 颜色 look much nicer on her...
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 Hello Kenny.
Hello Kenny.
Okay, since I had done with Enya. Now it's Kenny G's turn! Are 你 ready?

1. Songbird

Whenever I listened to this music, Snow White would come to my mind since she loves birds, especially during the 'With a Smile and a Song' and the 'Working Song' scene.

2. 由 the Time the Night is Over

Ella and Kit/ 灰姑娘 and Prince Charming, I personally think it 《金装律师》 the latter 更多 because when the night is over, he will find the mysterious girl that fits the glass slipper.

3. 心 and Soul

Princess Aurora and Prince Philip will dance together to this music, especially during 'Once upon a Dream' and...
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 Belle and Beast - 'Beauty and the Beast'
Belle and Beast - 'Beauty and the Beast'
1 Belle and Beast - 'Beauty and the Beast'

Sometimes it's the little details, like lady Lumiere in the background and dude!Belle's glasses in his pocket.


2 Cruella de Vil - '101 Dalmatians'

And sometimes it's just being uncomfortably attracted to one of the most evil people in the 迪士尼 lexicon.

3 Elsa - 'Frozen'

There would be no eternal winter with this smoking hot King on the Thorne.

4 Esmeralda - 'The Hunchback of Notre Dame'

Did God help the outcasts get ripped? Because dayum.


5. Hades - 'Hercules'

This makeover makes her derisive 'He's a man!' line even better.


6 Sophie and Howl - 'Howl's Moving...
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嘿 everyone! This is my 秒 countdown in the series, and it was a short one since there are only three yellow dresses and one 橙子, 橙色 dress among the DPs. Despite that, I thought it was a good countdown.

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4. Tiana's 橙子, 橙色 dress

I don't think this dress is ugly, but most users agreed that it was very plain, and some didn't like the color on Tiana very much.



It's not as cute as the others and it's not iconic like Belle and Snow White's dress. ~SarahCorine
It is also nice, but others are just better. ~hirohamada
Orange is not a flattering color on Tiana. ~wavesurf
Not interesting....
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嘿 everyone! So this is the first culminating 文章 in a series of countdowns that I am doing. There will be one for each color of outfit. The winning outfit in each countdown will then continue on to a final countdown which will determine Fanpop's number one DP outfit. Enjoy! :)

9. Mulan's 粉, 粉色 and blue underclothes

I didn't mind this outfit. In fact, I quite liked the contrast between the blue 最佳, 返回页首 and 粉, 粉色 bottom. However, most users disagreed, finding it too plain.



Unremarkable. ~Silverrose1991
It's very plain and is just undergarments ~KataraLover
Too plain and not interesting. ~Sparklefairy375...
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 Loving this movie.
Loving this movie.
Okay, I was watching the 2012 version of Les Miserables last night and I had seen the 2015 reboot of 灰姑娘 last month. Both 电影院 have a common theme with each other: Forgiveness. The characters also play a similar traits to each other.

Cinderella

While watching this movie last month, I keep thinking that the story reminds me of Les Miserables! Aside from the same filming location of France, certain scenes and characters remind of some characters from Les Miserables.
For example, during the scene after Lady Tremaine and the 2 stepsisters called Ella 由 her trademark name, Cinderella. The...
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 Team Miss Universe
Team Miss Universe
Hi everyone, since nobody 发布 this up, I thought it would be interesting to write this 列表 if all of the Princesses are judges in both Miss Universe and Miss World, two of the oldest Beauty Pageants ever and what will their 问题 be.

1. Snow White

"Describe yourself, are 你 an optimistic 或者 pessimistic person?"

2. Cinderella

"If you're married into a member of a Royal Family, are 你 willing to follow in the footsteps of Princess Diana 或者 Kate Middleton?"

3. Princess Aurora

"Do 你 believe in a Damsel in Distress moment?"

4. Ariel

"Which species do 你 want to be? A human 或者 a fish?"

5. Belle...
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posted by AzulaFanboi
Heyyyy everyone! I thought I'd try to not be POOR 由 becoming an active user on this site! GIVE ME ALL THE 金牌 MUAHAHAHA----oh, excuse me. 你 didn't hear anything. :P (But really, I want to deck out my profile!!)

Anyway, here's my princess ranking!!



13. Anna

Anna-banana is cute, but I just like the others more. :P



12. Cinderella

I don't like how 灰姑娘 doesn't really stand up for herself! Yeah she shows a good work ethic, but damn girl! Put that backbone to good USE! That being said, she's really pretty except for her hair during the ball. Like what is UP with that headband??


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Sorry it took me so long to finish this countdown. I just got lazy I guess haha. I did this countdown because while there have been multiple "Best Kiss" countdowns I have never seen the "Almost Kisses" get much appreciation. I think they are cute and suspenseful, so I thought I would give them the spotlight for once. Here are the results, compiled for your enjoyment. :)

9. Tiana and Naveen's 1st Almost Kiss

It's no surprise this 吻乐队(Kiss) left first. It's the only one here that isn't romantic in the slightest, since Tiana doesn't even want to 吻乐队(Kiss) him and she's only doing it to get her restaurant....
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 misscindyspice made this
misscindyspice made this
A while ago, I did a 民意调查 series called "A Movie Staring 迪士尼 Princesses" , deciding what roles 迪士尼 Princesses would play in a movie (results are down below. And then I 发布 a forum, deciding plots. Although I did decide most of the plot, many people helped me get started and got the plot going in my head, so I can't take all the credit. Thank 你 to those who participated- whether 你 helped in the forum, voted in the 民意调查 或者 both, and I'm sorry for the long wait. This will take place in a few parts- I don't know how many exactly, but I estimate four-five.

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嘿 there! I'm isabellagirl033 and as 你 all are well aware 灰姑娘 has been adapted many times into live-action 电影院 though only some manage to truely be a hit. I'm going to break down some of my favourite portrayals into my 最佳, 返回页首 5.
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5. Hillary Duff, A 灰姑娘 Story
Despite it's cringe-worthiness and lack of loyalty to it's source, I still managed to enjoy the movie. Tween 图标 Hillary Duff is the last thing that comes into my mind when I think of 灰姑娘 but she made a convincing one at that. I think this spot goes to Hillary Duff mostly due to...
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I have already done this, a few months 以前 actually and I decided to do it again. My opinion has changed a lot, because a lot of people have made good points and so many of these good points have changed my opinion quite s bit.

13. Aurora






It's not so much that I dislike her, it's just I found her kind of bland in her movie. She was boring, though I enjoyed her sweet personality. I get she had to sleep, it was simply a part of her story, but I just didn't get to know her much. I know it sounds kind of unfair, but I find it hard to place her higher.

12. Pocahontas






I don't dislike her...
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 Who do 你 choose? Live-action reboot 或者 Animated???
Who do you choose? Live-action reboot or Animated???
So, since 迪士尼 has release 2 live-action reboots of their 迪士尼 classic animated feature. Here is what I think about which movie is better, as well as their animated counterparts.

Cinderella (1950 & 2015)

I would definitely go for the live-action version, as mentioned in my 前一个 articles. Ella has 更多 personality compare to her animated counterpart, and of course, less screen-time for the mice.
However, no Bruno the dog! Also, no songs in it. I wish it was, but on the other hand, the producers and Kenneth Brannagh didn't want the movie to be to close to its original 1950 animated...
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 The cast!
The cast!
Hi guys, since 《冰雪奇缘》 has took the world 由 storm, this 文章 is basically about my initial impressions about the story-line, the songs and music, as well as the art and characters' designs back in 2003, 10 years before the movie that took the world 由 storm.

The Story

When I first heard that 迪士尼 was going to adapt the Snow Queen, my first impression was that it was going to be faithful towards the original story 由 Hans Christian Anderson. Secondly, I thought that it was about 2 sisters who one of them discover to have ice powers, according to a prophecy, were separated since they were...
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