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 I really think he loses it, here... Raging at a person is not explaining to a person your personal view.
I really think he loses it, here... Raging at a person is not explaining to a person your personal view.
Triton is one of those dads in 迪士尼 that absolutely makes me squirm. I don’t 爱情 him, and I don’t hate him. But I do find him extremely unnerving, and on the same plane of Mother Gothel upsetting. He clearly alternates between being “nice” only sometimes, and then being really “explosively nasty” at other periods. King Triton’s rule is a patriarchy. I think his abusive tendencies, though, stem from insecurities he has within himself. Triton is afraid of the unknown. He's also afraid of not appearing “manly” enough. ( Bizarrely, this also makes me think of Prince Adam and Gaston, who are also both afraid of not “looking like men” in front of women). Anyway, Triton shares the trait of “trying to look manly” with his adviser, Sebastian, since both males tend to view females as lesser individuals, and needing “constant supervision.” Triton seems to believe that in order to be a successful ruler and father “he must maintain control of the situation” at all times.
    This is something that has always bothered me about him. In fact, the very first time we are introduced to Triton in the original movie, he is wracked with anxiety about the sea 音乐会 celebration. To Triton, the celebration, and specifically Ariel 唱歌 at it matters, because it “keeps up appearances.” Having Ariel and the rest of her sisters sing at concerts reflects well on Triton. Why? Being a man who has the daughters with “the best voices in the ocean” gives Triton a heck of a lot of high social status. Triton definitely worries about his social status. It's part of his own emotional vulnerability. That’s why he is so infuriated when Ariel misses the concert. He is thinking of his vulnerability and embarrassment, and about social mores. The social mores of Atlantica and the ocean deem mermaid princesses ( the crowning females of the ocean) to have no innate power 或者 choices, as they belong as fixtures in the palace, a kind of “beautiful treasure collection.” Ariel upsets Triton’s expectations 由 making “choices” that, according to Triton’s laws, she should not be allowed to make. 由 being an explorer and venturing to the surface (an area where “Triton’s rule ends” because he must share this area with humans), Ariel demonstrates that she has free will. Triton does not believe Ariel “needs free will.” The very first father-daughter interaction in this movie causes me to believe this.
    
(Fade to the palace 王座, 宝座 room where Ariel is being admonished.)

Triton: I just don't know what we're going to do with you, young lady.

Ariel: Daddy, I'm sorry, I just forgot, I -

Triton: As a result of your careless behavior -

Sebastian: Careless and reckless behavior!

Triton: - the entire celebration was, er -

Sebastian: Well, it was ruined! That's all. Completely destroyed! This

音乐会 was to be the pinnacle of my distinguished career. Now thanks to

你 I am the laughing stock of the entire kingdom!

Flounder: But it wasn't her fault! Ah - well - first, ahh, this 鲨鱼 chased us - yeah - yeah! And we tried to - but we couldn't - and - grrrrrrrrr - and - and we - whoooaaaaaa - oh, and then we were safe. But then this seagull came, and it was this is this, and that is that, and -

Triton: Seagull? What? Oh - 你 went up to the surface again, didn't you?

DIDN'T YOU?

Ariel: Nothing - happened. . . .

Triton: Oh, Ariel, How many times must we go through this? 你 could've been seen 由 one of those barbarians - 由 - 由 one of those humans!

Ariel: Daddy, they're not barbarians!

Triton: They're dangerous. Do 你 think I want to see my youngest daughter snared 由 some fish-eater's hook?

Ariel: I'm sixteen years old - I'm not a child anymore -

Triton: Don't 你 take that tone of voice with me young lady. As long as 你 live under my ocean, you'll obey my rules!

Ariel: But if 你 would just listen -

Triton: Not another word - and I am never, NEVER to hear of 你 going to the surface again. Is that clear? (Ariel leaves, crying.)

Sebastian: Hm! Teenagers. . . . They think they know everything. 你 give them an inch, they swim all over you.

Triton: Do you, er, think I - I was too hard on her?

Sebastian: Definitely not. Why, if Ariel was my daughter, I'd 显示 her who was boss. None of this "flitting to the surface" and other such nonsense. No,
sir - I'd keep her under tight control.

Triton: You're absolutely right, Sebastian.

Sebastian: Of course.

Triton: Ariel needs constant supervision.

Sebastian: Constant.

Triton: Someone to watch over her - to keep her out of trouble.

Sebastian: All the time -

Triton: And 你 are just the 螃蟹 to do it.

    Again, we see the emphasis from Triton and Sebastian on "showing who is boss" and keeping “Ariel under strict supervision.” We, the audience, thus surmise that Ariel is a social pariah for having her disparate views. We know nothing about Ariel’s mother in the first movie. Not a trace. But something must have clearly happened to his wife, because Triton is running scared. He’s scared of humans. So scared is he of them, that he has forbidden any chance of ever encountering one: that’s what being forbidden to visit the surface means. Triton has no control up there, and that’s what scares him and worries him. Triton wants to protect his populace as his 最佳, 返回页首 priority, so he has lowered his portcullis-- meant to keep the humans out as well as confine the merpeople within. His laws/rules really make up a kind of voluntary sequestration, if 你 will.
    Ariel hides from her father’s explosive anger. After the argument with Triton, where she is forbidden to even explain her side of the story—that’s what “Not another word!” means—Ariel tries to hide. Victims of domestic violence often withdraw and try to avoid their abusers. They tiptoe around them. They know the “triggers” that set off the “lambaste” and the “raging.” Ariel even admits in her grotto, that she knows that her father has a different view than she does.

Ariel: If only I could make him understand. I just don't see things the way he does. I don't see how a world that makes such wonderful things - could be
bad.

    Now, here is the part I really don’t get. Why doesn’t Triton explain to his daughter why she cannot venture to the surface? (Heck, even Mother Gothel shares/ scares Rapunzel into compliance, with her song about the world outside the tower, lol). But honestly, any good parent should want to champion their child’s burgeoning self-awareness and independence—and what better way to do that than 由 offering “some explanation 或者 reasoning” for why 你 believe humans are “X, Y, and Z.” Then your child can at least acknowledge where 你 sit on the topic. Your child won’t have "to guess" why 你 believe something to be true, and your child can believe your efforts to “protect them” matter because they can see the logic and the reasoning behind it.
    Does King Triton explain to Ariel why he set up these laws? No. He does not. And this is what leads them to verbally spar with each other when in the same room.
    I’m skipping ahead now, to the section of the movie after Ariel saves a human’s life, Eric’s. Ariel is thrilled to have met a human for the first time. Of course, 说 human was 1) self-effacing, 2) saved his father figure, 3) saved his dog, and 4) did not threaten to kill a merperson.
    Yes, throw in the “hot looking” factor, and if 你 are a pubescent girl 或者 boy, 你 know that hormones make thinking quite a bit harder in adolescence. However, falling for someone is real… even if in 迪士尼 they so definitely rush up “the how 你 get from friendship to romance” in 96-102 minutes.
     Anyway, Ariel is on 云, 云计算 nine. She’s high on dopamine from falling for Eric. Her sisters are the first to notice this, and tell Triton that “Ariel is in love.” Triton is taken aback at this for a while. Then he feels kind of happy and smiley about this event, too. He is all smiles, because, again, according to the social mores of the Altantican and ocean population…an impending marriage is great news if 你 are the father of the bride. Your social status goes up if your daughter marries.
    Triton never suspects that Ariel has fallen for a human. And why should he? He believes that he has “made his thoughts known” and “the subject is closed.” But since Triton did not explain his reasoning for why he is so scared of humans…the subject is not as “closed” as he assumes that it is. This is the interval where Triton is closest to being “the nice, caring” father to Ariel. He does not 显示 any opposition to his daughter finding someone and falling in love.
    Just as I was getting all of these warm and fuzzy feelings for Triton…then comes the section of the movie where Triton needs to know who Ariel’s paramour is. Sebastian is summoned, and divulges who Ariel loves. And Triton does a 180-degree-characterization-shift. All of his “happiness” for his daughter dissolves into rage. In a fury he visits Ariel’s grotto, where he delivers yet another reprimand. In the admonishment, he—yet again—“talks around” why he is so scared of humans.

Triton: I consider myself a reasonable merman. I set certain rules, and I expect those rules to be obeyed.

Ariel: But Daddy!-

Triton: Is it true 你 rescued a human from drowning?

Ariel: Daddy, I had to-

Triton: Contact between the human world and the mer-world is strictly forbidden. Ariel, 你 know that! Everyone knows that!

Ariel: He would have died-

Triton: One less human to worry about!

Ariel: 你 don't even know him.

Triton: Know him? I don't have to know him. They're all the same. Spineless, savage, harpooning, fish-eaters, incapable of any feeling-

Ariel: Daddy, I 爱情 him!

Triton: No . . . Have 你 迷失 your senses completely? He's a human, you're a mermaid!

Ariel: I don't care.

Triton: So help me Ariel, I am going to get through to you. And if this is the only way, so be it. (Begins to blast the artifacts with his trident.)

Ariel: Daddy!. . . No . . . No, please- Daddy, stop!. . . Daddy, Nooo!!. . .

(He blasts the statue. Ariel begins crying and he leaves, ashamed.)



    When Ariel mentions that Eric would have died, Triton says coldly, “One less human to worry about!” Okay. That was completely unnecessary. Humans have just as much a right to live as the merpeople do. And claiming that 你 don’t have to know the human in 问题 to “pass judgement” on him is rather prejudicial. 你 just speak out of a lack of knowledge, Triton.

    Furthermore, what happened to your wife, Triton? Why don’t 你 address that, instead of calling all humans “Spineless, savage, harpooning, fish-eaters.” That would actually help me believe your criticism towards humans is well-founded.
    But, Triton is ASSUMING that all humans are “incapable of any feeling.” Really? He doesn’t know that for a fact, because he is a recluse. Triton has not gone and spied on multiple humans for an extended period of time to see how their emotions play out. (Triton, 你 don’t get out much, so 你 can’t realistically back up that argument, can you?) In fact, Triton proceeds to tell his daughter to her face that she:

1)    Does not have the freedom to make any choices for herself.

     And

2)    Has 迷失 her mind.     
    
    Triton implies that his own daughter is insane! Ouch.
    I have forever wondered at what Triton does next, though. It’s not enough to belittle his daughter’s arguments. Triton proceeds to DESTROY all of the things that his daughter loves. I don’t feel warm and fuzzy toward Triton after this incident. I don’t feel “under King Triton’s protection” at that moment. What I feel is that Ariel has just been severely bullied. And Triton is like most domestic violence abusers. He 威化饼, 华夫饼 back and forth being “nice” occasionally, and then “flies into a rage” when he is upset. Then he looks embarrassed about it afterward.
    Having taken a domestic violence class in my own life, I can identify that the victims of domestic violence so often have to walk around on eggshells, desperately trying to keep the fragile peace alive. Victims usually “worry” about upsetting the abuser. Why do 你 think Ariel hid her grotto and never told her dad about its location? Of course, she did. Ariel knew it would upset him and make him “enraged.” Ariel knew her dad would never listen to her, and was trying to have a “small area of reprieve” from the abuse. Ariel knew that hiding her collection would not last, though.
    After the destruction of all of her items, Ariel goes off and makes a deal with the manipulative sea witch. This is the deal, that everyone blames Ariel for making, because it jeopardizes Atlantica. But I consider Atlantica as being already jeopardized, from the very moment the family dynamic between father and daughter deteriorated into domestic violence. I actually blame Triton for emotionally bullying Ariel until she dissolved into tears and sought Ursula’s help. If Triton had been able to listen to his daughter and had been willing compromise with her, Ariel would definitely have gone to him first about her “wish” to be a human.
    There are consistent arguments that vilify Ariel, and claim that she made all the wrong choices in the movie. But the movie itself actually shows that Triton was the major “force” that drove Ariel to Ursula's lair. If the truth at the very 心 of this movie is to be told…both daughter and father share an equal amount of the blame, since they both created the mess that almost swamped Atlantica.

    To 包, 换行 up, one of my 最喜爱的 parts of this movie is the moment when both Sebastian and King Triton acknowledge that they were WRONG to “prevent Ariel from having free will” and to prevent Ariel “from growing up.” Everybody makes mistakes in this movie. Ariel made the mistake of taking Ursula's deal. Triton made the mistake of breaking his daughter's spirit. I believe that King Triton’s kindest act was to accept that all humans weren’t completely awful. His 秒 kindest act was to give his daughter her legs.
    (Fade to morning with Eric on 海滩 and Ariel watching from a distance.

Triton and Sebastion look on.)



Triton: She really does 爱情 him, doesn't she, Sebastian?

Sebastian: Well, it's like I always say, Your Majesty. Children got to be free to lead their own lives.

Triton: 你 - always say that? (sighs) Then I guess there's just one problem left.

Sebastian: And what's that, Your Majesty?

Triton: How much I'm going to miss her.

    At some point, children cease to be “children.” They need to make their own mistakes, and they need to have the freedom to lead their own lives. Yes, I do feel that Triton was overreaching, and not the best father, because he did abuse his daughter at the beginning and at the middle of the movie. However, I do consider King Triton “redeemed” at the end, because “he began communicating with his daughter” and “began seeking to understand her view to which he was formerly so opposed.” The ability to listen is so important. That is a large part of why I tear up at the end of this film.

For a slightly different view than mine, on why someone would find King Triton abusive… here is another article. link.

    I know this is a touchy subject, so many thanks for reading.
    
 One of King Triton's redeeming acts.
One of King Triton's redeeming acts.
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It's me again with a new 文章 about romance! Every 迪士尼 Princess have discover about love. Been in 爱情 is the most wonderful thing that 你 can feel (I never been in love, but I know from other people, that 爱情 is beautiful, Do 你 agree?). And 由 this romance, always there is a romantic scene, that they will not ever forget. This 文章 is about these romantic scenes that either the princes and princesses, 或者 us will never forget. I hope that 你 like it, and I am sorry if I made errors in my spelling and grammar. Enjoy it!








10. The Rescue of 花木兰 (Mulan)

 花木兰 and Shang
Mulan and...
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OK so i hear alot of stuff from people how the 迪士尼 princesses are bad role 模特 for kids. True? Well 你 be the judge. I have made a 列表 of the princess and the pros and cons of them and might add some extra facts about them please comment.
here is my take:

Snow White- One of the princess that dreamers of a guy coming to 爱情 her and give her a better life.
Pros-ok she is 14 years old dreamer who wants to meet the person who will 爱情 her, she works hard for others with no much regard to herself.
Neutral- in order to cope with her life she talks to 动物 and dreams of something bigger
Cons-...
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 Here's some villains. Not necessarily the ones in the lineup, but 你 try getting a picture that has just them in it. >:I
Here's some villains. Not necessarily the ones in the lineup, but you try getting a picture that has just them in it. >:I
I'm in an 文章 mood now.
I've been a girl of the villain since I was little. No matter how much I loved Batman, I always loved the guy he'd just roundhouse kicked through a building too. Equally so, I 爱情 迪士尼 villains. The ones matched with the princesses aren't generally my favourites, but at least they're easy to order and rant about.
Yes, I swear a lot. But this is about villains, so it's going to be some badass shit anyway so it doesn't matter half as much.
A lot of people had a go at me for commenting in my last 文章 that I'm not a very funny person. Rather than let that deter me,...
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Ok, I haven't written an 文章 in a couple of months, so I decided I might as well write one now. And the best topic I imagined to be my 最喜爱的 scene is each DP movie. So enjoy :)




SNOW WHITE AND THE SEVEN DWARFS

My 最喜爱的 scene is the one, where the dwarfs are rushing towards their house in order to save Snow White from the Queen, while in the same time the hag and Snow White talk about wishes and apples. I find this scene really amazing, because of all the action and all the emotions: dwarfs are scared that Snow White might be harmed, Snow White is enchanted...
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9. Someday My Prince Will Come (Snow White)
I hate to put this song last because it's absolutely beautiful, but the other ones are simply better.
 "Someday my prince will come someday we'll meet again and away to his 城堡 we'll go to be happy forever I know..."
"Someday my prince will come someday we'll meet again and away to his 城堡 we'll go to be happy forever I know..."


8. A Dream Is A Wish Your 心 Makes (Cinderella)
Same goes for this one. This song is so dreamy and lovely, but still, there are better ones.
 "A dream is a wish your 心 makes when you're fast asleep in dreams 你 lose your heartache whatever 你 wish for 你 keep..."
"A dream is a wish your 心 makes when you're fast asleep in dreams 你 lose your heartache whatever 你 wish for 你 keep..."

7. Down In New Orleans (The Princess...
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All right, first off a little history about myself. When I was a little girl I used to enjoy the little mermaid. Ariel was actually one of my 最喜爱的 迪士尼 princesses/movies.

Now that I am older however, I have just recently watched the little mermaid one, two and the third movie which is Ariel's beginning.

I couldn't believe what an awful role model she is and how selfish she is. I searched on the internet to find others with my similar view on her and I stumbled across this 文章 here: link


My 文章 here is solely debunking everything this particular person is going on about and finally...
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First of all, I would like to say huge THANK 你 to all of you, who participated in the countdown, and especially to those of you, who left comments.

Here are the results of Best Princess Dance Scene Countdown as of June 2011.



11. Tiana's dance with Naveen in the bayou

No surprises here really. A lot of people thought this dance is ridiculous and strange. I guess 动物 dancing together is not a really idea of a nice dance 流行的 around here.

Darkshine said: "I 爱情 PATF, but not this dance. It's not really special, and it looks a bit weird. 射线, 雷 starts 唱歌 about him being in 爱情 and suddenly...
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